Voiceprint with Sally Prosser

00:00:01: Do you want to live a life of freedom and adventure?

00:00:03: Are you wanting more than the daily crowd?

00:00:06: Me too!

00:00:07: Welcome to The Emma Lovell Show, A place where we talk about living a life you love now.

00:00:12: I'm your host, Emma Lovelle And my number one value is Freedom.

00:00:19: I've said that love for whom he has run his business in travel which is fantastic.

00:00:55: Let's jump here & get dreaming.

00:00:57: This Is Space For You To Manifest A Life You Love.

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00:01:09: I am grateful for their continuing care of land waterways and skies where our work.

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00:01:24: Welcome To The Podcast Today!

00:01:26: I Am Beyond Excited To Have This Fabulous Guest.

00:01:33: Emma, it is so great to be here.

00:01:35: I am such a fan and advocate for the Bledger lifestyle.

00:01:40: Well you are living it!

00:01:41: So i always love people And of course with you Sally in your field of expertise... ...I would love you to introduce who YOU ARE.

00:01:51: Who Am I?

00:01:52: That's like The Deepest Question You Can Ask Isn't It?

00:01:54: Who Are

00:01:54: We?!

00:01:55: That Is The Question that we spend most Of Our Lives

00:01:57: Figuring Out.

00:01:58: The Answer To.

00:02:00: I would describe myself as a free-spirited planner, adventurer voice and public speaking coach

00:02:09: who

00:02:10: really values expression transparency authenticity.

00:02:15: And i just turned forty last year very proud to say that!

00:02:20: Live in Brisbane Australia and am really prioritizing at this point of my life adventure And living a life I love, which is another reason why this podcast is just such a great thing for me to be doing.

00:02:39: Well and you know timing wise he had it huge year...I loved following along with the fortieth birthday celebration!

00:02:45: I'm planning a big fortieth birthdays so i'm thirty-eight so got um all that year and a half to go.

00:02:51: So

00:02:51: thirty eight while wait?

00:02:52: I was going to do forty at thirty eight but then oh I

00:02:55: love it.

00:02:56: well yes And then you also had such a big year, like.

00:03:01: I think it's such a huge beautiful culmination here because you became an author

00:03:05: and your

00:03:06: voice print came out which is fantastic.

00:03:09: I should note my nails are almost on brand for that.

00:03:13: You're not!

00:03:15: That's good planning...I

00:03:16: know just coming.

00:03:18: I loved your book and of course i got.

00:03:20: I was like, and i do need to do a review because it was fantastic.

00:03:23: I've given you a voice note review but i need to give you the proper one.

00:03:26: of course i would do a voicemote to a voice specialist But...I had to listen to it!

00:03:31: I listened to it.

00:03:32: um Because it's like- Of course im gonna listen To The Book About Voice.

00:03:36: And..i know You , i Know Your Voice.

00:03:38: So It Was Wonderful I'm Sure.

00:03:41: Um....It Was Great Cause I Could Hear Sections Where Like Im Gonna Go Back I could see where i could do exercises or where it was like kind of oh be good to visual visually.

00:03:50: So, I do tend to like have both.

00:03:52: but Sally tell us like you know congratulations being an author.

00:03:55: and what's that been like in that year for you?

00:04:00: Oh well thank you!

00:04:02: And Thank You For Supporting The Book.

00:04:04: It Has Been A Big Year A time where I'm so proud, I was able to focus on some longer form legacy work.

00:04:19: So in business there were a lot of just as you know Emma social media.

00:04:25: it's kind of like todays newspaper becomes tomorrow's fish and chip rapper.

00:04:34: It didn't feel very permanent which is right on theme.

00:04:38: with this podcast.

00:04:41: we had a death in the family at the end of twenty-twenty four, which was quite a sudden tragic plane accident.

00:04:48: And... ...of course it's just been a couple months really being in that depth when I opened my eyes and thought what am i doing with life?

00:05:02: I guess its question people ask around death!

00:05:05: I've wanted to write for so long.

00:05:08: this book is my second one because im talking about writing I'm like, oh this is your second book.

00:05:15: No no the same one.

00:05:16: and so that was the motivation for me to say yes just start writing... Start leaving this legacy!

00:05:23: And it's quite meta because The Book Voice Print is all about not what happens while you're speaking but the impression you leave once you stop That unique voice print that you leave on the world?

00:05:34: That auditory DNA.

00:05:37: Yes So thank you and i had lots of fun with the lip syncing promotion videos as you would have seen.

00:05:42: Yeah, you did so much great promotion.

00:05:44: It was wonderful to see the campaign roll out and of course that's something your grade at but it is such a big project And I think even the lead up to this book.

00:05:58: Yes!

00:05:58: You started writing But how long does it take for my book to write?

00:06:07: Nineteen years ago, I did a gap year and thought you know the Lulu nineteen-year old.

00:06:11: I'm gonna write a book And funnily enough The Book that came out was kind of part of that concept.

00:06:18: It's just that I'd evolved and i still think there is A place for the book...the book Was Kind Of How to do a Gap Year as a young person?

00:06:25: and I Think I could Still Probably Do A version of this For a Young Person.

00:06:29: but um the seed it takes a long time.

00:06:32: and then I do think There Is like the beauty and I wrote it in my book, Grief Clarifies Living.

00:06:37: And it is that thing where you just for me to start at screaming...I had a number of tragedies in a row..and i'm so sorry for your loss!

00:06:44: I saw everything you went through.

00:06:46: Emma also connected with that part of your book?

00:06:48: I messaged you....i think i hope i did because yes grief clarifies living.

00:06:54: i so resonated with that.

00:06:56: yeah And you just, and I was wonderful to learn more about your story.

00:07:00: Your father in hearing that come through as well... It reminded me of listening to a book.

00:07:06: something we shared but it's like Sal is a bit woo!

00:07:10: You've got a little woo going on.

00:07:13: A bit woo.

00:07:14: when also did the gap here?

00:07:15: When I went into Brazil when i was nineteen?

00:07:18: There are woos within The Woo Girl which think both are promotion excited.

00:07:23: no supportive ladies, we also have Wu the strength of winning over others in terms of influence.

00:07:29: but Wu being a little bit on the spiritual side and I loved hearing that come through.

00:07:34: And one of the parts that stood out to me so much in your book was when you went...and i would love to do it!

00:07:40: You got to see ...see your voice.

00:07:43: they did.

00:07:44: uh can you tell us about that?

00:07:45: It's just like..I was walking along in California listening with the experience you were having.

00:07:53: Wow!

00:07:53: You are in California, so it's in Santa Monica?

00:07:56: It is called The Reality Center that where I am a donor.

00:07:59: So i was like oh must go to sit...I don't know why but yeah..you

00:08:02: would have been so close.

00:08:04: That's weird.

00:08:06: Yeah well seeing this place on a documentary and I was like This Is So

00:08:10: Fascinating!!

00:08:11: It Was Fascinating Enough That I Was Like Let'S See What Deals Are On are on the frequent flyer, what am I going to use points for?

00:08:18: And we booked a trip to LA.

00:08:20: We did of course travel around but The Catalyst was this place and you went in there.

00:08:28: they used technology to help with PTSD.

00:08:31: They worked with lots of war veterans and we lay down put these headphones new when spoke then captured your vibration or voice fed back into ears.

00:08:44: So you're essentially listening to your own vibration, which all of us have a different frequency.

00:08:51: And what was wild?

00:08:53: Was the vibrations and the colors changed before my eyes.

00:08:58: on this screen they had like it's kind Of Like A Cool Dentist Studio But It Was All Dark Not All White & Drills.

00:09:10: All Kind Of Like Dark & Relaxing.

00:09:14: he asked different questions about what I was excited, or worried.

00:09:19: The colours changed and it lined up with the Chakra Colours.

00:09:24: And the crazy thing is which i didn't write in the book.

00:09:27: Patrick did as well because my partner was on holidays with me!

00:09:31: He's just like roped into these things... So at the end you get this graph of your voice.

00:09:44: if you put them together, they would have fit together like Tetris.

00:09:48: It was the most wild thing ever and they were surprised at all as we find this with couples that there is actually a vibrational match in The Voices where you're providing each other what you

00:09:57: lack.".

00:09:57: And I was like whoa!

00:09:58: Uh...and just to be in it rudimentary way of explaining A lot my vibrations are high and dreamy and totally me.

00:10:07: Patrick saw grounding stability That came through into the sound.

00:10:11: Oh

00:10:12: my goodness.

00:10:13: You wrote it really beautifully because I was totally picturing the experience and i absolutely put on my bucket list, um... Because of something that's been finding lately someone sent me for The Lion's Gate.

00:10:25: there is the eight-eight-eight is the lion's gate.

00:10:28: so they send a frequencies playlist.

00:10:32: in the last three or four months, I've just kept listening to it and i'm just... It's almost a white noise.

00:10:37: And so I've really connected with frequencies.

00:10:41: there are some tracks you go oh no thankyou!

00:10:44: You turn off others.

00:10:45: that completely yeah.. I don't know if they're going into another place but instead of music or instrumental or white noise like could be sound at the ocean or wind whatever.

00:11:02: they've said it's the eight, eight frequencies.

00:11:04: So things to bring in abundance and you know sort of positivity.

00:11:09: and yeah.

00:11:10: so when he said that frequency is how cool?

00:11:13: To have your own vibrations and your own frequencies too even just to reconnect with yourself every single day.

00:11:19: Absolutely!

00:11:20: And I love that I was listening up to get that playlist off you.

00:11:23: It's why in sound healing, sound bars for some people there bowl that gets chimed, which brings people into like disgust.

00:11:34: They go oh I can't listen to that.

00:11:36: and other ones make you feel they're having a beautiful bath in the sound... And this is why i'm such a big proponent for connecting with your authentic voice because if we don't do that how can we resonate?

00:11:49: And connect with the audience member or person who are speaking too!

00:11:53: Who's wanting to tune-in?

00:11:57: The same way that you said certain tracks, you went.

00:11:59: oh not for me.

00:12:01: People do that with people's voices and the same when they go.

00:12:04: Oh!

00:12:05: That voice is for me.

00:12:06: so if your'e using your authentic voice You're missing opportunity to find those who are most aligned in frequency.

00:12:15: And it was something that comes out through a book.

00:12:18: How did I read this?

00:12:20: without listening to it first, I totally know i would have heard you and it was such a compliment that I got back from people.

00:12:27: That they were like...I could just hear you in it because some of them are really right differently.

00:12:31: They tend to put on this persona when they write And then use the different voice In these sense hear you through it.

00:12:44: And so, It's crazy that when... When You are So Aligned That People Could... I felt like you were reading to me or i could Hear You Speaking Through It Because You've Put Your I Guess Pattern In There So Much and It Does Come Through As Its.

00:12:57: Not That Voices Is Auditory But It Also Is Through The Written Like They Have To Know.

00:13:04: Yeah!

00:13:04: So um..I Appreciate That I Got A Lot Of People Who Said the Same Thing To Me.

00:13:09: A friend of mine gave me some great book writing advice, she said when in doubt write true.

00:13:14: When In Doubt Write True and I combined that with.

00:13:16: they used to be a TV reporter And the way you would write your scripts is always speak out loud as you were writing because things sound different As They Write.

00:13:23: Broadcast Journalism Is An Auditory Visual Medium.

00:13:27: So it was speaking AS I Was Writing.

00:13:30: There Were Times Where I'm like oh this sounds good.

00:13:32: That's not what i'd say and thats NOT The Truth.

00:13:36: So let's go back and have a look at that.

00:14:06: Maybe not all of us.

00:14:07: I think a lot people are putting some things through chat gpt and you can look at it And go.

00:14:10: oh that actually sounds better, but then you've got to step back and go.

00:14:13: But is it

00:14:14: me

00:14:14: more important?

00:14:15: To be a bit imperfect in messy and sound like how i would say It?

00:14:19: Then yeah Yeah, and that's something very important with your editor as well As two and one of my biggest fears was that My voice was going to get edited out.

00:14:28: And it wasn't true that I was going to be edited out, and that uh...I wouldn't like love the book.

00:14:42: So it wasn't that i was scared of a negative review—i was scared my negative review —that It Was No Longer because you have to stand by That You Have To Stand There And Talk About It For A Long Time.

00:14:53: This Is Like You Said It's Not A Social Post That Goes Up And Disappears Something That Lives On, Lives In The Libraries.

00:15:00: What A Beautiful Thing!

00:15:01: It Really Gets Alive Of Its Own.

00:15:05: If you don't love it, I... It's very hard to be would be very hard.

00:15:10: And so that was something that was coming up that i didn't realize was blocking me until I did end up working with a wonderful editor and like oh You just made me sound better or are you?

00:15:18: she kept?

00:15:19: She just amplified my voice.

00:15:21: Yeah!

00:15:22: Love that has the same experience as my editor.

00:15:24: The fear of permanency is a big one That I work with.

00:15:27: people are worried about putting their voice on the record.

00:15:30: I actually have a chapter called printed On the Record.

00:15:32: I'd better just not make any mark

00:15:37: at all.

00:15:38: And even now you can see my copy of the book, it has got lots of post-it notes and things in

00:15:43: there.".

00:15:44: You know what this is?

00:15:46: Things that i would change if i ever did another edition... It's part to the books.

00:15:51: where like how did that get

00:15:53: through?!

00:15:53: That doesn't make sense!

00:15:55: I write it this way....and that's okay giving ourselves permission.

00:16:01: you know, I'm doing my website this year.

00:16:03: There's nothing wrong with the website now.

00:16:04: i've just changed as a person.

00:16:06: we're just growing and we should be!

00:16:08: And I'd really encourage everyone to embrace the dynamic changing nature of ourselves... ...as a way to give ourselves permission to put our voice out there.. ..and share what's on our heart without feeling like What We Say Now is whats gonna come back & Be held As It Was Like In Ten Years Time.

00:16:30: Yeah, and it's a stamp in time.

00:16:32: It is of the point-in-time And that's how what you've put in there Is?

00:16:37: How you felt on what your experienced and what you knew at the time.

00:16:40: Of course A month later You're gonna learn something new or week late are going to learn Something new any.

00:16:45: if you held back he would never you wouldn't ever put out because you'd always be editing adjusting.

00:16:50: Absolutely its the confidence to say If that were to happen, I mean...I feel like some of my clients are afraid being cancelled.

00:16:58: Let's cross the bridge when we come to it.

00:17:00: if you're a big enough personality get canceled and doing pretty well.

00:17:03: It'll be my dream.

00:17:04: have news articles saying Sally Proser cancel because people would know who i am.

00:17:10: To matter yeah.

00:17:12: But having their confidence say yes thats what did right at time.

00:17:17: And feelings changed.

00:17:20: My voice has changed.

00:17:21: That is good thing

00:17:23: Yes, and one of the other things I loved that happened in real time was that i put out a video whilst I was in America about... The fact that I often get comments about my American twang.

00:17:35: That happens when I go to the US And I have been oh gosh sixteen times now and um Have a relative so spent a lot of time.

00:17:43: But it's you know..I shared a video saying It's partly intentional, because honestly he can't understand me or hear me.

00:17:51: But now it just happens and you jumped on and talked about the chameleon effect.

00:17:56: so I was like... You know?

00:17:57: I said to my husband of dad see!

00:17:59: Because we're not doing it.

00:18:01: Can you tell us a bit more

00:18:04: about the Chameleons Effect?

00:18:05: Yes The Chamelemon Effect is when in terms of voice We take on different words, accents phrases of the people that we're around and We do it as a way to bond with the group.

00:18:19: So, It's a connection piece which is why if you ever spent A lot of time overseas You might come back With a bit of an accent or If your'e round a certain person a Lot ,you'll go.

00:18:27: oh That''s The turn of phrase .That Person Uses in the book.

00:18:31: I share the example Of.

00:18:32: when i was In the UK doing University exchange one of my friends Would always be like

00:18:36: Oh bless!

00:18:38: Oh

00:18:38: Bless!!

00:18:39: And we'd Go and get a brew Like you know cup of tea?

00:18:42: For about a year later, I was in Australia going oh bless.

00:18:46: Where

00:18:47: did that come from?

00:18:49: It's Frankie.

00:18:50: She's in my mind.

00:18:51: Yeah and to see this connection is beautiful because um it Was only once.

00:18:55: i'm really accused of being like mimicking or mocking And it's like no it's just a connection.

00:19:01: and once I did my NLP certification It's that neuro-linguistic programming that we also do gestures.

00:19:10: So like I might start if Sally's tipping her head, i might start to tip my head or she is using a hand a lot and it can overused or unintentionally could you know be seen as mimicking or mocking.

00:19:24: but... And its very interesting listening to Improvs people in SNL about the difference between impersonation your mockery or like replication.

00:19:37: Like you're trying to do an impersonation, or interpretation of as opposed a straight duplicate and yeah so it's just... It was so helpful to hear that!

00:19:47: And so you told me then I read it soon after in the book and i'm like ha-ha okay that's...

00:19:52: Yeah I believe the difference is the intention behind it.

00:19:55: You know if we are mirroring and picking up on language to find similarity, because that's what rapport is and we were wanting to find connection.

00:20:05: And oh this how I sound.

00:20:08: you can like it or lump it!

00:20:09: It's a very unhelpful opinion to have...or view-to-have.

00:20:14: ...because the more that we can adapt and have a bigger vocal wardrobe i call it ,the more we connect with different people..and places.

00:20:23: ..and create more opportunities for ourselves.

00:20:27: It was really helpful.

00:20:29: And I think it goes across, not just for travel but any form of.

00:20:32: when you're trying to connect like we talk with a child You can speak to the child Not in baby voice But do have get on their level.

00:20:43: When your speaking an older person and conscious that they might need to speak slower or slightly louder I think its kind and thoughtful.

00:20:56: Yeah, absolutely.

00:20:57: Our voice is a tool of connection

00:21:00: and

00:21:01: you want people to hear you and understand you.

00:21:06: yeah.

00:21:07: And if somebody says oh You know what was that?

00:21:09: That's a really good sign because it means that they wanted here which she said and they just didn't quite catch It.

00:21:16: so I would encourage people too to lean in and Take that time To at the very very minimum make sure they're heard and understood by the particular audience.

00:21:29: You mentioned America, my audience is growing I'm working with Americans... ...and i didn't realise how many Australianisms are used in my everyday language until people were saying what do you mean?

00:21:39: you stuffed up?

00:21:41: What's a

00:21:41: fortnight?!

00:21:42: You know things like that!

00:21:44: And because I was like oh when your stuff up which in Australia it makes a mistake.... Were you congested?

00:21:51: That affects the voice And so it's really important for us to be, you know conscious and learn as we go along about these different nuances in voice.

00:22:04: How can connect with more people?

00:22:06: Yeah!

00:22:08: One of the things I've loved learning about Voice over The Years is personal brand coaching a former life but So fixated on the words that we say, but to learn that it's fifty.

00:22:29: five percent is visual then thirty eight percent is tone and Then seven percent.

00:22:35: Is The Words?

00:22:36: And I think the one That i get there that your visual has other We worry so much about how he look and we worry so Much About what the words are saying.

00:22:43: But the tone.

00:22:44: This is so important and I Think It loses.

00:22:48: you can lose so much of connection and message if Your tone is off.

00:22:52: yeah

00:22:53: A well-delivered lie is believed more than a poorly delivered truth.

00:22:57: And that's the reality, people who are talking The Talk running rings around People Who Might Walk The Walk But Don't Talk The Talk.

00:23:07: and this Is Really Where I Work Because...I don't Think This Is A Good Arrangement!

00:23:11: People Who Are Really Great At What They Do Need To Have The Voice to Match.

00:23:16: The Communication Is Such An Important Part Of It & The Fifty Five Percent Its Visual.

00:23:22: it's also like, its physiology.

00:23:23: It is the state that you're in The State That You're In counts for such a big part of communicating and thats why I teach voice from inside out because Its really how your feeling.

00:23:36: A lot people will say look...I felt like i was going to faint..i didn't like it ..i want to collapse but everyone else seemed quite confident and they couldn't tell.

00:23:46: Now some would say oh thats fine!

00:23:48: They Couldn't Tell.

00:23:49: But I'm like, no that's not good.

00:23:50: We want to be able to feel good in ourselves when we're speaking and being proud of our selves and feeling the voice is flowing as if you've done a great job!

00:24:00: I'd much rather someone say... And i have had this happen too.... I felt really well.. I never felt so comfortable on stage and potentially get some negative feedback.

00:24:11: I think it was better for

00:24:13: me.

00:24:14: Of

00:24:14: course feeling good and good feedback is what we're going for, but I believe how WE feel about our voice IS where it needs to start.

00:24:23: Absolutely and i think see so much in group situations or events when someone will show up their body language like I don't want be here...I'm not happy..i am uncomfortable....and then you go over.

00:24:36: they say hi!

00:24:40: And your doing this backtracking of trying connect with this new version as opposed to the version that I've seen, like i already got these experience of you.

00:24:51: and then again if the tone doesn't match what I'm seeing.

00:24:55: And all of it has to align.

00:24:57: but you Sally...I saw you!

00:24:59: We brought colours we talked..i don't know if you remember our first meeting?

00:25:03: It was at The Business Chicks Movies & Breaks

00:25:05: on the Gold Coast.

00:25:07: yeah so lovely too.

00:25:09: have to see you, the way that you are.

00:25:12: To talk with them and get at their connection so they can continue on.

00:25:17: Obviously we see more animated versions sometimes but very consistent experience.

00:25:23: Yeah I appreciate it.

00:25:25: Your energy speaks before your do And for me i want an alignment.

00:25:33: What is seen in screen is how you're in person.

00:25:36: One thing a lot of people tell my life as shorter than expected But thats probably because im sitting up tall So, but also you know in situations like that a lot of people do have social anxiety and they're thinking okay how do I sound like i'm confident?

00:25:52: And...and..I want to make a good impression.

00:25:55: It's the great Emma Lovell as well!

00:25:56: They are probably feeling a bit starstruck.

00:25:58: what am I

00:25:59: saying?!

00:26:00: That is also part of this voice work.

00:26:02: it comes down to self-love.

00:26:04: The more we can love ourselves trust our energy feel comfortable being ourselves Then we can carry the energy.

00:26:14: We walk out of the door with right into the first conversation We have at a networking event.

00:26:18: Yeah, yeah I love it's all very holistic view.

00:26:21: so and the book has been.

00:26:23: It is wonderful And i love seeing you Have this experience.

00:26:27: one thing that um?

00:26:27: I want to touch your little bit more about travel.

00:26:30: Um because but something that we share and we love in the life That you're creating through all of your work But You gave Your Book To Oprah.

00:26:37: uh what like you gave your book to Oprah.

00:26:41: Can you tell us about how you got to give your book To Oprah?

00:26:45: Yes, I manifested it!

00:26:46: It was the day after The Big Book launch where Katrina Blower's Channel Seven presenter and news presenter who was introducing me said oh it's an Oprah moment...and i was like Oh well she is in town And I'd previously said my mum She's just like honey.

00:27:01: You should give her a book to oprah Just as if that were the easiest thing in the world.

00:27:04: So go she's into voice..I think they would be really good.

00:27:06: I was like, mum you can't just walk up to Oprah Winfrey.

00:27:11: But then well the book launch was planned before i realized that she was there the next night and a whole lot of slide doors moments happened where I found out that she at Southbank had gone for a walk and would be returning back any time.

00:27:32: so important part of the story.

00:27:36: I'd written Oprah a note already, I've written her a note in uh card inside the book.

00:27:43: The Oprah.

00:27:44: thank you for inspiring people to use their voice Sally and...you know it's a little bit about hack for you.

00:27:52: so..it was ready to go!

00:27:53: So i picked up the book ran out, ran down the street towards where The Uber was.

00:27:58: I had no makeup, no bra.

00:28:01: really relaxed because it was a day after my big launch.

00:28:03: you know when you've had a big dress up event?

00:28:05: You want to have a big dressed-down date.

00:28:07: but i was like...I will not be missing Oprah!

00:28:10: Because I was spending five minutes to be a bit vain and put some make-up on..i was just going down there....and then the uber driver was like ''I believe in

00:28:19: YOU!''.

00:28:21: And so I went there and waited waited waited and she was walking down, I approached her.

00:28:28: And said Oprah you know this is my book.

00:28:30: i explained that mom and I enjoyed watching the show growing up.

00:28:33: we were going to a show at night in Brisbane.

00:28:35: what's your mother name?

00:28:37: Her name is Sue.

00:28:38: I felt this wave of formality come over me because She Is The Queen and I said Susan!

00:28:45: She said oh voice print That's nice idea cameras, so it was just such a big moment.

00:28:56: I feel like the amount of excitement i had in that moment would only be matched by the feeling i got when i secured Taylor Swift tickets to her concert.

00:29:06: It's my cheeks are hurting and im getting sore...I can feel..like Im smiling too much!

00:29:15: And then I'm sure you have to be crying afterwards because It was like,

00:29:21: I just feel sometimes in adulthood.

00:29:23: This is one of the reasons that love travelling and adventuring so much.

00:29:26: we become a bit too steady with our emotions Like i want to feel things.

00:29:32: And after she walked into the hotel Katrina who's there reporting on this story looked at me and I felt like a little kid screaming in street and called my friends and said you won't believe what happened.

00:29:51: And so it was such a beautiful, amazing moment which has had a good outcome.

00:29:58: So far the Oprah effect is real.

00:30:00: there are couple of people one in particular who said I saw Oprah holding your book on the news?

00:30:06: I ordered you're audio book i listened to.

00:30:08: when can we work together?

00:30:09: how come he worked again and she signed up my highest level program.

00:30:14: But you took the chance, and it is such a misconception with manifesting that it's just sitting in your house wishing and praying.

00:30:21: And things will land on your lap.

00:30:22: but something I've loved to learn about manifesting was like had you not been able have this experience... It IS a viable experience!

00:30:32: You could afford a ticket for the VIP to meet her in person.

00:30:36: They might not have.

00:30:36: let me give them the book!

00:30:38: All of the VIPs?

00:30:39: You're NOT allowed hand-to anything.

00:30:42: Yeah

00:30:44: Which I got to give Liz Gilbert my book.

00:30:48: Yeah, which was my... I guess...

00:30:51: Oprah moment?

00:30:52: My

00:30:52: Oprah moment!

00:30:54: So i went and see her speak in Brisbane.

00:30:56: She came but we were in Mexico getting married the last time she was here And then Covid hit so she didn't come back again When she's coming and I booked for the VOP.

00:31:07: I sold my house one of those celebration.

00:31:09: things was like doing nice thing.

00:31:11: so I booked a ticket and I hadn't written the book at that

00:31:14: time,

00:31:15: but like it was yet.

00:31:16: The book hadn't come out yet.

00:31:17: so...

00:31:18: But

00:31:19: i took it knowing full well they might say no.

00:31:22: So when I got into the VIP line I could see GIFs.

00:31:25: They're like maybe let me in!

00:31:26: And asked for help and were like oh yeah she'll receive that She'll accept that.

00:31:30: So I got to give her a tour.

00:31:32: Thank you if your inspiring and love your career.

00:31:35: I'm an author now.

00:31:37: Anyway then I texted Emma Isaacs, and I was like who's the founder of Business Chicks?

00:31:43: And because i saw her partner.

00:31:45: And it's like are you at Liz Gilbert or no?

00:31:48: did she write to me?

00:31:49: Are You At Liz Gilbert?

00:31:49: It Was Like Something Like That!

00:31:51: And I said yes and actually got To Meet Her and just like yeah Just Saw Your Book Backstage in The Green Room...and Emma Isaacss wrote them forward.

00:31:59: That

00:32:00: is amazing.

00:32:01: She was backstage and then now I have a photo, they sent everyone the photos but it also sent their professional photos which was really nice because she only lets you take one pose so everybody takes a picture of your phone down to be present.

00:32:12: that's lovely!

00:32:14: They send us the pictures from the professional and there are a photo of Liz inside the Brisbane Town Hall getting shivers with beautiful red and purple lights.

00:32:25: I wanna be standing where she is.

00:32:27: Like, I want to be sharing my ideas in a room and having people come meet me you know?

00:32:34: And on my shelf i have also a picture of like ten books In A Row.

00:32:38: Liz Gilbert has a row of books so that's what it looks like.

00:32:41: So I've got an vision board with the book and the picture of her speaking.

00:32:46: You have put yourself into this situation but again...I bought a ticket!

00:32:53: You left your house.

00:32:55: Yeah, well it's all in chapter thirteen.

00:32:57: I arrive to speak your blueprint.

00:32:58: It's all about manifesting with you voice so i You know All the visualizing of writing.

00:33:04: What is the voicing?

00:33:05: The strongest vibration we have Is that our vocal chords.

00:33:09: and I talk About speaking what you want To happen And recording it With feeling In Your Voice.

00:33:18: So it's all in chapter thirteen, I give you the play by play on how to do this.

00:33:22: And of course yeah i end with the same thing that we're talking about is... You have to be-you have to take action!

00:33:29: It's not all talk no action but the actions as well which is the most important thing.

00:33:33: and the last bit of that chapter.

00:33:34: I say never underestimate The Power Of Just Asking.

00:33:39: No there's a sphere of rejection.

00:33:41: people think oh they'll say no

00:33:43: Yeah

00:33:44: But

00:33:45: at least and ask, like asking or saying but also then receiving right because somebody could you have said Oprah's down the road?

00:33:53: Or someone wants to meet you.

00:33:55: You can do this!

00:33:56: And they say no.

00:33:57: so someone says here is a thing that you've been asked for.

00:34:01: yeah take one more step on doing it.

00:34:04: I don't know.

00:34:04: i cant

00:34:06: look for a fleeting moment.

00:34:09: oh my gosh im not dressed Im not ready.

00:34:13: run over and see Oprah, am I crazy?

00:34:16: Like what just leave on the odd chance that it might happen.

00:34:22: Yes absolutely no hesitation And That's why using your voice is so important because people are often Afraid of rejection which is why they weren't speak.

00:34:36: But one of the best pieces of business advice was The hundred knows challenge.

00:34:39: if you're not getting a hundred nose then You know trying hard enough.

00:34:43: And so every week, I set myself a little tally and often it's not no.

00:34:49: It just haven't heard back

00:34:52: or Not yet

00:34:52: like not yet?

00:34:54: No yes So i'm constantly Getting knows and actually as i'm saying this not as many as i would like.

00:35:02: Yeah This doesn't sound crazy.

00:35:04: Like you sort of Every time i get close to even...i've never got more than five nos before i've gone.

00:35:10: Yes whether it be A client Or a podcast interview or some Sort Of opportunity And it's proof that is just taking.

00:35:19: That action,

00:35:20: yeah?

00:35:22: It's a good reminder I've written down here.

00:35:25: my psychologist told me to set up the year of yes.

00:35:28: she was doing in no and its like actually played bigger.

00:35:31: so if you're always getting guesses even for pricing or office maybe the price is too low, it's too approachable.

00:35:38: So put the price up and then you get a few more noses or its... You know?

00:35:42: Get these nose to get them right yes!

00:35:44: Yeah.

00:35:44: so just such an lovely reframe on what could be such negative experience.

00:35:50: And I'm gonna take that one because and i'll say out loud.. I went for South by Southwest last year ..and didn't get

00:35:56: any... Nothing has been cancelled in Sydney.

00:35:58: Oh,

00:35:58: there you

00:36:00: go.

00:36:01: So I meant to be on a bigger stage maybe.

00:36:03: but um yeah i'm meant to go to austin.

00:36:05: you know me like why would i go to vipassana in the brisbane?

00:36:10: You went to vhipassana.

00:36:10: yes!

00:36:11: I read that too...I was like why wouldn't it go to brisbon?

00:36:13: I'll just go to india.

00:36:15: Go where its from.

00:36:17: so he's like oh I want to go south by Sydney or just going to austen.

00:36:20: absolutely

00:36:21: go to the og.

00:36:22: But..i was really knocked down.

00:36:27: it was hard because a few people had really like even friends that I've put in my calendar.

00:36:30: You're there, we are there and I'm attending, seeing your

00:36:33: session.".

00:36:33: And the people who didn't campaign around it were supportive... It felt great fit concept all this sort of stuff..I know its highly competitive.

00:36:44: they got their potential agenda.

00:36:46: What am i?

00:36:47: I have two clients with amazing ideas and strong applications also did not get accepted.

00:36:54: But then thing is well I don't want it anyway.

00:36:57: Well fine, i'm not gonna do it!

00:36:58: Not going south you know like as opposed to... As opposed to going ahead that no because you're meant to do a different stage Like all you're mean to do is not the right time for you.

00:37:08: You can do a few more things and then South by Southwest And maybe next time It's not an application Maybe its invitation.

00:37:14: Yeah

00:37:14: you gotta trust The Universe knows what's best For you.

00:37:17: so it's always say this or something better.

00:37:22: So This year Is Oprah shares voice print in her book club or something better.

00:37:28: It's like when I first applied for a TEDx and i got a rejection, then recently applied for TEDx And the idea is way more right than that original application was.

00:37:45: so getting approved back would not have been my highest good.

00:37:51: So always add to end of manifestations or better, I trust you know what's my highest good.

00:37:57: And if we look in hindsight so many things that haven't came no happened are often a sliding doors moment for something better for us to

00:38:06: happen.".

00:38:08: I love it.

00:38:10: now Sally has something on.

00:38:11: i'm just going to keep you for ten more minutes.

00:38:12: is that okay?

00:38:14: Absolutely because taking action is like booking trips!

00:38:18: So thirty-three days across the north of Spain.

00:38:24: And it's something that I've been thinking about for quite a few years, not like oh well do that just as being seeded has been planted and something that hurts my soul, I don't know whether it's a past life thing or what it is but i feel like we have this in common Emma.

00:38:40: Is people that talk about doing things?

00:38:42: But they put it off!

00:38:44: And then make excuses...and they say ''I'll do that when I

00:38:46: retire.''.

00:38:47: ''I''ll do that When I Have More Money.

00:38:48: ''I'l''ll Do That When I Had More Time..And Then Life Passes Them By and They Never Do What They Want To Do.

00:38:53: so for me....i was Like Yep!

00:38:55: I'm Gonna Do This!

00:38:57: I can Make The

00:38:58: Time!!

00:38:58: I've Got the

00:38:59: Health!!!

00:39:00: I Say That With trepidation because the training is a little bit of a killer.

00:39:04: It's like twenty Ks per day and I've booked it in, hmm?

00:39:12: And for me if you have got that infrastructure on your trip then its on!

00:39:16: If you get the flights or accommodation blocked out by your business calendar...its happening!

00:39:22: Well i think this is a proverb but I say it quite often where its like, you know book the trip and my message from the book is someday stop waiting for some day or one day.

00:39:35: One Day i'll do the Kamino Someday.

00:39:37: ill do the kamino.

00:39:38: well if u don't Book The Damn Ticket Or You Don't Book Time Or You Dont Make The Time It Will Not Happen.

00:39:44: And So One Of The Italian Probable Story Is That This Man Goes To The Fountain Might Be The Trevi Fountain Or Goes to A Fountain Every Day And He Prays Please Please Can I Win The Lotto?

00:39:53: PLEASE PLEASE.

00:39:53: CAN I WIN THE LOTTO PLATE?

00:39:54: PLEASE PLEAST CAN I WIN THIS MONEY?

00:39:57: the angel of The Fountain comes to life and the statue comes to live, he says please.

00:40:02: Please sir buy a ticket.

00:40:04: You know so you wasn't buying your tickets for the lotto!

00:40:07: Buy their plane ticket.

00:40:08: And people say too I'm sure to you too Sally...you're so lucky..You always going on trips look at your life....you are so lucky.....I don't use the word Lucky I am fortunate But i say ...i book it.

00:40:21: ..i plan It.

00:40:22: ....i spend my money On that.

00:40:23: .....i choose it.

00:40:26: I don't discount my fortune and the lotto of life that i was born into this country, as born in to his family.

00:40:31: I totally acknowledge our look at you and me like we do have privileges.

00:40:38: Totally acknowledge that but also make choices because there are other people who would have a very similar trajectory of life for me saying aren't you lucky?

00:40:49: Yeah it's really being aligned with your values!

00:40:55: Really enjoy travel.

00:40:56: my dad was like that.

00:40:57: Like he really liked his garden and He's routine, and he's fishing And Didn't really Enjoy going out for dinner or international trips?

00:41:10: Or planes or airports or things like that.

00:41:12: whereas me oh I feel at home in an airport lounge like there is.

00:41:18: I'm

00:41:20: walking to the lounge getting a little glass of sparkling, settling down and waiting for your flight to leave.

00:41:27: It's like really my happy place.

00:41:30: sounds funny!

00:41:30: My idea of meditation app is opening up my Qantas app and seeing how many flights i have booked or my booking dot com which at the moment has forty-four upcoming trips away, nights away because of The Camino but also other trips that I'm booking in.

00:41:47: And the way that i work is because it's so important to me and I've made some choices in my life...I have chosen not to have children..i have traveled my whole life like.... I think people look at my life now and go oh she travels first class!

00:42:00: You know?

00:42:01: Like say all these nice things.

00:42:02: Oh my

00:42:02: gosh!!

00:42:03: I've travelled since I was young spending time twenty-four bed dorms in the middle of Ireland where I've walked in, on top bunk there's someone at bottom bunk with a garbage bag legs open sharpening and knife.

00:42:17: And then other girls are like.

00:42:18: do you want to come for drink?

00:42:20: Yes!

00:42:21: Running up down different levels trying find shower that had enough pressure wash myself in my towel.

00:42:27: so

00:42:29: it is really

00:42:29: within me now i'm fortunate enough be able make choices.

00:42:36: at the time, because of my business to be able to do things differently and learning how to use points for lights is just it's blown.

00:42:46: My mind like I used to think that you only really rich people those people would fly up the front business or first.

00:42:59: but then it's like oh if he does make a few decisions on your right about freaking flyer points in your book as well.

00:43:07: It does have having a business, so I have the credit card but anybody is able to do it.

00:43:12: So Patrick he's really good with points as well.

00:43:14: He works a salary job and our mantra In our household if its not earning us a frequent flyer point Its wasted money.

00:43:26: Well, and the misconception is that you are like.

00:43:31: well The name is kind of a misconception because it's frequent flyer points.

00:43:35: So there the idea Is that you earn them by flying frequently which some people do?

00:43:40: And People I think more maybe to more traditionally but Because Of all these partnerships That These Airlines have created what they don't.

00:43:49: They sort of insinuate It But they Don't out would say spending is what gets you the points.

00:43:55: Now spending responsibly, something that we talk about... I will talk about it's spending that you're already doing.

00:44:01: so we don't go and buy seventeen other things to get the points but i will strategically by my new laptop with buying apple gift cards because they gave me twenty times the points.

00:44:13: So I got a new laptop that had to get anyway With forty thousand frequent flyby points You know?

00:44:23: And then also

00:44:24: looking for rewards as well.

00:44:26: Like if you're in Qantas at Woolworths, there's a good deal that you can get.

00:44:35: and it's important to note though how important status points are.

00:44:40: so because we do fly a lot happy to share is that every year we book a full fair overseas business class flight in the double status promotions period.

00:45:02: Yep, yep!

00:45:03: And that means that we retain platinum and then also gives us a whole lot of points on top of the points were already earning...to be able to book pretty much every other flight throughout the whole.

00:45:13: Yeah, and

00:45:18: this information which is what Steve Huey who's been on the podcast talks about.

00:45:23: This information is readily available.

00:45:25: It's just that it's a bit of game And I love games.

00:45:29: so when i worked out how to play It's been fun.

00:45:34: And I also, and putting your attention in your awareness it is not a big amount of time but you and i are checking our app every day there.

00:45:41: people who aren't paying attention to that they're not seeing the...they don't know their value

00:45:45: Emma!

00:45:45: There are people that fly without the app downloaded.

00:45:49: like this is just crazy doing I know.

00:45:52: But once you can check online be on top something will actually turn up get whatever seat given But it's an interest area for us, you know?

00:46:03: So...

00:46:05: Well and a choice.

00:46:06: And a passion.

00:46:07: A choice!

00:46:08: My

00:46:09: favorite Sunday is booking trips.

00:46:11: like.

00:46:11: I'll spend hours and hours looking through accommodation and i feel like i've got so good at getting hotel upgrades being able to look at the floor space that plays in this city and i get this sense of satisfaction when i arrive there.

00:46:26: Gee, I did good because i know that.

00:46:27: I got this great hotel at a price That's better than what the full fair is and it just ticked all The boxes.

00:46:34: so patrick says i'm the accommodation whisperer but It Is A skill?

00:46:37: Its'a skill.

00:46:38: you can learn

00:46:39: its a practice And You've done it and you prioritize the time on it and then it's a habit and in the checking as a habit to keeping an eye out As a habit.

00:46:47: But i'd also say you've been really wise In you Know when i love where you are living that leisure life is that you've harmonized your business with the travel.

00:46:55: So it's not work, work, go on a holiday.

00:46:58: both you and Patrick I've seen have strategically planned your travel either that you initiated a business activity and traveled to it And then gone on vacation or been going somewhere.

00:47:16: You're using your time, you are using money or experience and skill set wisely.

00:47:21: I can see that you have this harmony which...

00:47:25: Absolutely so.

00:47:25: we booked the trips first!

00:47:27: The first thing in a calendar is always the trip.

00:47:28: they take precedent.

00:47:29: then around there's an event on here with conference.

00:47:33: there while i'm there will run workshop seek clients from city and blend it.

00:47:41: It's really funny when people say, wow!

00:47:43: You're so amazing you got to do a workshop in London?

00:47:46: Like I was going to London to see Taylor Swift And while iIwas there like well im gonna run a work shop And I found the venue and booked it and advertised

00:48:08: appearing of things in.

00:48:10: as opposed to that you are strategic and You've made choices.

00:48:14: And I think um, I can recognize that and i'm or yeah, I think it's wonderful But I do-I am so conscious of your time!

00:48:21: I would have you back In a second.

00:48:22: uh Sally to talk about...you know?

00:48:24: I think we want people coming on and talking About their leisure trips.

00:48:26: So like maybe we could kind of dissect Your fortieth birthday trip Or one Of your trips where you Do sort of Have those multi levels and layers, to see how it's done because I think that something probably people are asking of me.

00:48:41: And sometimes...I'm really tired!

00:48:44: But you don't want go through but its the value cause they're sitting there going.

00:48:47: How Are You Doing This?

00:48:49: So we'd love to show them that.

00:48:51: my question for you is what does living a life look like now?

00:49:02: Right Now i am so fortunate a life I love.

00:49:10: The upcoming flights are full, the client pipeline for my business is full... My health is good!

00:49:21: i spend time with people I love and just in the same way that I view voice in a holistic way.

00:49:31: you have to see life in a holistic way.

00:49:34: it's not work-to-live or live-to work its work & life as all one big experience.

00:49:43: And every day I wake up and say, gosh i'm glad im you.

00:49:48: And wonder what Im going to learn in the old earth school today?

00:49:52: I love it!

00:49:53: Definitely found a soul sister in new Sally.

00:49:56: we are very aligned and hopefully get do a bledger trip together at some point which will be fun or pop-up somewhere.

00:50:03: you and I

00:50:04: look at us here

00:50:06: Or just make this happen.

00:50:09: Let's Just Do That.

00:50:11: Tell us Sally how can we find you?

00:50:12: How could people work with you, what is the best way?

00:50:14: obviously.

00:50:14: We'll put all the links in the channels but yeah...how can we get more Sally in our world?

00:50:20: Oh

00:50:21: please reach out.

00:50:21: I'm on Instagram at sallyprosavoice and LinkedIn is a great way to contact me as well.

00:50:28: And sallyprosser.com.au.

00:50:31: Don't forget the AU!

00:50:33: Of course we have voice print.

00:50:34: it's available where you find your books or good bookstores.

00:50:39: I think i've got mine on amazon.

00:50:42: But yes find it wherever and you can get in voice of course, so... And You

00:50:47: Can Also Get The Matching Oracle Cards!

00:50:49: So if your into that

00:50:52: sort-of

00:50:53: thing the Voice Print Code's oracle cards are beautiful gold lined and they really complement the book.

00:51:00: I love it.

00:51:01: All right you and i have to book in a lunch, You Have To Go And Do Your Thing.

00:51:04: Thankyou so much Sally!

00:51:05: I Love Everything You've Shared and just congratulations again on being A Published Author & I'm Delighted To See With What You Do Next.

00:51:13: Oh thankYou So Much.

00:51:14: Emma

00:51:20: are the awesome peers called to find this podcast you've got, motivated and inspired.

00:51:37: Wanna stay connected?

00:51:42: Come on, Emma Lovell, go ahead here!

00:51:45: The same as my website but all of these are in the show, it's lovely.

00:51:49: I'll see ya next episode for more information, motivation & freedom speaking.