Unleashing Passion with Kate Astill

Episode 27 - Kate Astill (EDITED)

Thu, Jan 04, 2024 10: 04AM • 36:14

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00: Do you want to live a life of freedom and adventure? Are you wanting more than the daily grind? Me too. Welcome to the Emma Lovell show, a place where we talk about living a life you love now, I'm your host, Emma Lovell, and my number one value is freedom. I've spent the last 14 years running a business and traveling the world. And now I take my husband and toddler along for the adventure to it's possible and I know you can create a life doing what you truly love as well. This podcast will inspire, motivate and encourage you to go after your dreams to create a life you love until you get now don't wait for a time and or someday in the future. I'll be sharing episodes weekly about how I harmonize business travel and self care. I'll also bring on incredible guests to share their journeys, wins the challenges and how they're creating a life they love. Let's jump in and get dreaming. This is a space for you to manifest a life you love.

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01: I would like to acknowledge and recognize Aboriginal and Torres Strait Islander peoples as the first peoples of this place now known as Australia. I am grateful for the continuing care of the land waterways and skies where I work live, listen, learn and play. From here on you can bear country and from wherever you are listening, I pay my respects to the elders past and present.

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01: Welcome to the podcast today I am so excited to introduce Kate astral, who is a business and marketing coach who's helping female leaders to grow and make sales on Instagram. She offers one on one coaching and courses and she owns a wellness business as well, where she teaches yoga hostess workshops, retreats and events. But before that she worked as a medical scientist for 12 years, I had the pleasure of meeting Kate on a retreat and we connected straightaway. It's been incredible over the past few years to see her journey. And I really wanted to share that with you here today. And how she is really actively living the life she loves. And also helping others to do the same. We share that in common. So please enjoy today's episode with the fabulous Kate Castile.

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02: Welcome to the podcast Kate after. Thanks, Emma. I'm excited to be here.

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02: Lovely to see you always like to have you say sort of, in a few words. How would you describe yourself? Or who are you? In your words? Who am I? I'm a business woman. I'm an entrepreneur. So I went from working for someone else. And now I really identify as working for myself. I am a stepmom, I'm a partner. I am enthusiastic. I love life. I have a lot of passion and a lot of flair for the work that I do. And I think that that's come from finding something that I absolutely adore. So definitely fiery, passionate, enthusiastic, adventurous. Yes. Yes. So we connected over that because I met you at a retreat, which I'm trying to think now. It was last beginning of last year right started 2022 I think it was 22 or 21.

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03: When was Finn born?

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03: 22 Because he was a year. Yeah, yeah. Yeah. I know the times of milk like, like just melted, molded away melted away.

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03: But yes, we met on that retreat with the wonderful Aney the

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03: ladies without limits. And it was such a short time. We were really together only two days. I felt like it was such a special time. Yeah, I don't even think it was two days like we met the morning the Saturday. And then I think we were dropped off on the Sunday.

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03: The next day felt like a lot longer than what it was. Yeah, it was incredible to see what could be created in that time. And when you bring people together.

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04: And I love going back, it'd be fun to go back and see some of the stuff that we wrote down the stuff that we worked on, because I know that seeds were really planted there for me of what's developed. And for you, you were still in employment then. Yeah, I think I've done a complete switch. I think even at the time I didn't write that I was interested in even leaving my full time job. But with events and experiences and things that happen between now and then everything is just kind of pivoted

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04: so what was what did life look like then? Let's say 2020 120, early 2022. Yeah, so I was in my 12th year working as a medical scientist for New South Wales Health pathology.

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04: They were beautiful and that they granted lots of personal development opportunities and that's where I was in

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05: introduced to mindfulness. And then it must have been 2020. When we're in the lockdowns with COVID that I did my yoga teacher training. So a lot of the development from mindfulness and meditation, kind of sparked a passion with yoga. So I decided to do my teacher training, and jumped in, I opened my own studio. So when I met you, I had my studio that I was running classes, and I was working full time, I had started my own podcast, I was doing all of my own marketing. But back when I opened my own studio, I realized that I knew nothing about branding, about marketing about positioning my offer. And so being so in love with growth and development, I dived into lots of courses study, being a scientist doing lots of testing on social media to see what worked and what didn't work with my audience, to then kind of come up with my own strategies.

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06: And then also, in the process of starting my podcast, I spoke to so many incredible entrepreneurs that were passionate about what they did, they were very talented in the fields that they worked, but like me, they started their business, not because they had a passion for business or marketing. And so they also had a gap in that knowledge. So I think at the time of the retreat, I was still very much into my wellness business. And after that, I really pivoted into being a coach and like a marketing coach, business coach for people who work within the health and wellness industry to help them give their clients the transformation. Yeah, huge shift. Yeah, you had you were definitely doing a lot of the testing in the in the socials. And you and I did a we were doing the reels there. Yeah. So like content content content coming up here up there. We did International Women's Day One collaborative, which was fun. And then we, you and I did a collaboration, we've got to do one of those again, where we we did it from afar, and you just came to me like, Okay, you did this bit, I'll do this bit. And I was like, Yes, I love it. And I think that was like you were like, Oh, you like doing this? You'll say yes, like you'll take? Yeah, well, what are we doing? was really fun. And yeah, I think that's something I don't

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07: do or love is the experimenting and the testing side of it. I kind of like to kind of do it, and then it's done. But, you know, people even like looking at your metrics, I get slaps on the wrist, and I come from a marketing background. But I'm more like the storytelling side of the call it the qualitative, not the quantitative side.

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07: You know, but if you're not looking at data, then you're going, you're still just throwing spaghetti at the wall. Yeah, I think that's where I've kind of got this hybrid approach based off my background. So I'm very creative I was, when I first went into medical science, we had to do one of those personality tests. And they had the personality of typical scientists are very stereotyped. And I did it and I was the opposite end of that spectrum, like I was completely opposite to what a typical scientist would be. But I still had a love for the numbers for the experiments for the innovation, I think sitting on the edge of what's new and what's to come. And so it's just adapted into social media. So looking at analytics, what works, what doesn't, and it's going to be different for everyone's audience. So I love that. Depending on what you're doing, my strategy won't work for everybody else. But you've really got to be influenced by those analytics. Yes, and actually go and look at them. And it's really quite interesting and things that you think will work, or you actually like plan and you get a lawyer, this is gonna be this is going to be great. Doesn't it mean that you kind of go? I don't know, for me, it always is like a kind of phone it in this, we'll do something today, I've got to do something. And then it goes really well. People go, that thing you said was really great. I was like, Oh, that was I don't know.

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09: Whatever.

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09: This is where it can be like really intuitive, as well as being like defined by analytics. Sounds like that's not the nice compromise between both. But then having but then, you know, I think no, I know where I've gone wrong in the last few years was not listening to still pushing out what I thought was the right thing or what I thought people wanted to see or hear, as opposed to, you know, using Instagram Stories, which I've been doing lately, like asking a question, or asking people to come in, and then actually using their response. I have for sure. going down that road or going oh, that kind of one where I said something a bit controversial, which I didn't think was controversial. Worked. Why don't I try that again? The next thing I know I'm reinventing the wheel with something new.

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09: Or like you said, just following somebody else's

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10: It worked for them. It should work for me.

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10: Yeah. And it doesn't.

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10: And,

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10: you know, something else that I loved seeing evolved for you was, I mean, you were doing a lot of travel, I think that was through the work. But now, you've incorporated, that you're, you're running your own workshops and your own retreats, but also doing some stuff for you as well. A bit more trouble for you. So what does that look like?

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10: Yeah, so I when I was doing my yoga classes, when I first started, ignorantly I dove into doing her every type of event that you could in the wellness space, workshops, retreats. They were, I call them retreats, but they weren't overnight retreats, where you go and stay in a luxurious hotel or something like that it was more, you come into the studio between eight and five, and we do retreat style things there. And then you go home, sleep at your own house, and then come back the next day. And we do the second day that retreat

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11: that's kind of evolved into more half day retreats with larger numbers of people. So like up to 30 people with guest Reiki Masters, and you know, other people that are in the health and wellness industry. I think before I started doing everything, I was always into travel, and me and my partner before COVID, we would do two to three international holidays every year. And I was lucky that I was starting to accrue long service leave and annual leave in my full time job that we were able to do that. But then since working for myself, it's just opened up this whole new door where there's no leave accrual, there's no limit on how long we can go for. So once everything kind of opened up after COVID being interested in yoga and that type of thing, we went to India. So that was one of the first retreat, the first retreats. That was one of the first travels that we did post COVID lockdowns and then this year we went to Europe for five weeks, we tracked through Spain. And then

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12: next year, we've got like Nepal and China on the cards, we went to Bali just recently, and then looking at running retreats in Bali. So this Bali experience we just went on, there was really about research and looking into what we wanted the experience to pay for clients. So yeah, next year, we'll be opening up three or four retreats over in Bali. I love it. Yeah. Like amazing that you're pulling in that old experience that love that you had. And I love what you said about the No Limits, because your sounds like you've obviously maximized the annual leave, which people don't always do, and really use that in your favor, but to just yet to have that realization, because sometimes people start businesses, and they're like, well, now I have to run the business. So I can't, I can't travel. And it kind of goes even though the whole reason for starting the business was the freedom. You've actually managed to. To hold on to that. And it was locked yourself in. Yeah, yeah. Yeah. But you haven't you've, you've seen, like, I guess you've taken that learning and seeing what's possible, which is amazing. Yeah, when I started my business, the biggest thing that I did first, which is what I encourage all my clients to do,

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13: is think about the vision for their life, like in five years time. Like I bring the yoga and meditation into it here we do like a quantum embodiment where you shut your eyes and you visualize yourself waking up five years from now, what does your day look like? So where do you wake up? What are the sheets you're waking up in? What does it feel like? Was it an alarm? Was it the sun coming in through the window? What location were you in? Were you in the same house. And like really running through your day, step by step when you eat, what you eat, you know, the amount of work you're doing throughout the day. And sometimes the daily activities also give you an indication of how much money you need to be making in business to be able to sustain it. So if you're going out for coffee and going out for lunch, and if you are getting takeout, or if you're doing things out and about or if you're on the other side of the world, when you wake up, you're going to understand in business, how much money you're going to need to be making to be able to make that a reality. So that's what I did when I first started my business. And so with the day that I planned out, I needed to have something that was flexible. That was what I call a passive income. So making income from something without exchanging your time for it. That's the biggest mistake service based industry makes when they step into business, they max out their hours per week, they hit the roof with their income, and then they become overwhelmed and burnt out quite quickly. So I was very conscious of that setting up my office and what I was going to be doing with my clients

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15: And that's just because I did that first, and then set my business up around what I wanted life to look like. That's now what I'm living. Yeah. Wow. So good, so good and it's hard. Not hard it is. It's, it can be challenging for people like that talking about that five years, I think I would say for me 10 years ago, I've been running my business 14 years, seeing that the seeds I planted or the actions that I took now, we're going to impact me, in five years time, it was just sort of incomprehensible. Whereas now, time is moving faster, and I can see the fruits, sometimes the things are happening faster than,

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15: you know, I'm saying it'll happen in five years, and it's coming quicker. But also that five years is coming. You know, I wanted to buy a house, I'll wait, I already have bought a house like, you know, I want to run a retreat in India. Oh, well, next thing I know, it's four years later, and I've done it like that, you know, planting that seed or that even that idea seed years ago, I can now see that

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16: that reality can come true. Whereas I think before I found the year sometimes that five years, I don't do that. I don't know what I'm going to be doing next week, let alone what I'm doing five years. And that's you do need to be guided if you just ask someone a question on a piece of paper, what are you doing it five years? They can't go into it? And like you said with the detail like it's that detail?

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16: That that's weird like that power is and then you know, you sort of if you're still kind of limiting yourself in like it's five years time and you're saying that you're basically doing the same thing again, you like really like is that what we want for our best future self? Hey, lovely. I want to open the doors to incredible opportunities for you on an all inclusive luxury retreat exclusively to people who are ready to live a life they love. I invite you to join me for five inspiring nights in sensational SriLanka for the rest and receive retreat, hosted from second to seventh of November 2024. by yours truly, Emma Lovell, I asked you to disconnect your senses and immerse in this exotic culture while you reconnect with yourself. You get to share this luxurious experience with 12 incredible people, while forming connections that last a lifetime. I really cannot undersell or overestimate this incredible retreat and the magic of going to a place to give yourself space and time. I want to share it with you. And if you are interested, then please head to my website, Emma lovell.au/srilanka Retreat. I'd love to see you there. And I'm happy to chat. If you have any questions whatsoever, please take this opportunity to come along and join me in stunning Sri Lanka.

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17: But yeah, for sure, I think with this, I tend to leave it more like what you want your life to feel like what you want it to. When I say look like it doesn't have to look the same every day. But if you need financial freedom, if you need time abundance to pursue activities or do things you love or to be overseas, one of my like, I love traveling. And if I travel with family, or if I travel by myself, either way, I don't mind doing a couple of hours work in the morning. But then I want like the day to explore.

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18: So I knew that when even in five years time, I'm fairly confident that I'll still want that time freedom. So for me to set up more passive streams of income now or offers, it's gonna still benefit me. And when I say like that five year exercise, I do it every six months or so. And it changes like it tweaks and it changes. But when you've got that clear direction of what you want it to look like, you get less overwhelmed in the here and now. So in the present moment, because when you make decisions, you make them based off, like you said, for your future self. So what is your future self going to benefit from? What choice can I make today? So that tomorrow, it's going to be better for tomorrow's version of me? Yeah, yeah. Which I think I do think it does come with a little bit of age and wisdom. But to do that, and, but also to have seen it, to see it play out and to have like you guide you through it. And I've had the fortune of having people guide me through it to

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19: to see how it could work. Another one that I found that was really helpful was I think I'd done an ideal day exercise and then that felt in a way limiting to me because you're trying to imagine your day but then I'm going and then I'm going to do so then I'm going to do that. And they sort of said imagine like an ideal week and so that worked for me with India like when I did that ideal day exercise. I did vision waking up in India with my boys, you know favorite country in the world. My favorite people in the

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20: The world and then running my retreat

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20: and having all these beautiful people and the way because she said it didn't have to be a day, it was like, I did have those things. It's just they were over a couple of days. So the boys were in India with me, which was a really important part. And we woke up together, and it was beautiful and lovely. And I cried. And then, two days later, I woke up on the retreat. And I ran the retreat as I had imagined, but it was in, you know, within the same sort of timeframe. But if it was like, did I get my ideal day? No. But I got my ideal scenario, it just played out, I got my ideal get vision, it just was over a couple of days, which I think is pretty good. It's pretty good. It's amazing. And I think sometimes, like my ideal day, in five years time, I might have parts of that playing out now. And some parts of that may play out in three months time, some parts of that may play out in two years time. And then my vision for my five years may change. But all in the while in the lead up, like my days now are pretty ideal.

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21: In terms of the freedom that I have, I suppose the biggest thing is freedom. Yes, yeah. Yeah. And it's nice to look at that too. Because I think that as people think when you, you know, once you've got all these ducks in a row, and you've got all your things, that you're always gonna be a different person. And you're fundamentally You are you. But, you know, like you said, you're becoming that person. And so it's like, well, something that helped me a lot was it's kind of like, I'd love to have a personal trainer every day. But right now, that's not the case. But it's like, how can I emulate that, you know, or I'd like to be someone who's very well put together and always have my hair done, well, maybe I could get a blow dryer once a week. And I'm not in a position to get done every day, or to have a full makeup and hair every morning. But once a week, or once a fortnight I go and get my hair blow dried, and it was like, Oh, I could start to do some of those little things. I can't have a personal chef, but I could get some catered meals, you know, the the meal service or whatever, there's ways that you go, Oh, this is what it's going to feel like I'm not just gonna be today me and then in five years completely different me.

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22: You know, it's you. I don't know, enhanced or whatever. Yeah, it's such a view with x with layers of experience. That's a lovely way to put it. Yes, I do. Remember you did a beautiful meditation for us, which was so unplanned. And I think sometimes this is the beauty beautiful thing on a retreat, if you allow a bit of space that we did stay overnight, and we were all there and we sort of all agreed that we would like or something. And we all woke up early and so you you and lovely Julia Renee, sort of meditation or guided and just breathing and being and it was all very organic.

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22: Yeah, I feel like that's how life should be.

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22: I think sometimes when we cram too much stuff into life, we don't create space for spontaneity or for things to come in. And so we can be wishing and hoping and wanting something to change yet because we don't create space for it. We never feel like it comes. Yeah. So it's like when you take space I think that's what happens sometimes people over this time of year over Christmas or New Year's because they sometimes do feel so fatigued from the that was and they're just ready for a restart. And they feel like December January is a great time to do that because they create space during that time they allow themselves that time to reset. But ideally that can be done every single day or it can be done whenever you need it not just at Christmas news. We're not to crashing and burning can't let you know that like these all these messages about who else is crawling to the finish line. I'm like, do we really like and what's the finish line? An arbitrary date of the year like this? Actually horoscopes and you know Chinese New Year and I mean tax like there's all different calendar dates or there's a calendar year but there's all different

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24: you know, sort of measures of time

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24: for many the year doesn't stop at 31st of December like it's looking at the financial year we're only halfway through Yeah, which is exciting and it changed my seasons a lot like the possibility because you could look at it and go okay well I'm not where I want to be or not getting what I want to hear. I've got a whole nother six months to turn that around and December and Jan used to be quiet and I don't know if that was a lot of my money was a mindset. It might have also been industry. There are some seasons within industries for sure. But I've also shifted my mindset so much to be that, you know, why can't December January be my best two months of the year? Yeah. For the health and wellness industry like I am sure the gyms will get an injection of cash comfort

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25: So January,

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25: I am certain that the gyms will be over flooded with people for two to three weeks in January who will pay 12 months, six month memberships.

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25: And then just, you know, go back into Groundhog Day back into the grind. Have all these goals and aspirations but then just Yeah, fall back into their same cycles. Yeah, and I heard something last year we had a planning, we were talking 2022. Because in when you near the end of the year, when we near the end of the calendar year, the years do start to kind of dates do start to merge a bit. But I was at a planning retreat. So we've been I think we were on the next month, I was on a retreat, and people were saying February is way too late in the year to have a planning thing like this was poorly done. And it was like, actually, again, going back to the horoscope or the Chinese New Year, it is actually around mid Feb. It's Valentine's Day that our scope year starts. And so this year, February 2023, I hosted a retreat. And it was really a perfect timing. Because for a lot of people, they are still although they want that quiet. They do get caught up with the holidays, and or they're just so pooped that they're like, I can't even comprehend anything and think about what's to come. And so come February, they'd sort of had their downtime that had the blur that they were coming back in. And they're like, Okay, well what is on the cards. And if we talk calendar year, then you have 10 whole months, or financial years to look for whole, like four months. Like it's actually when you use your time? Well, it's a lot of time.

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26: Yeah, definitely, I don't with my business, I don't feel restricted by any sort of measurement. I think inspiration comes when it comes. And outside of that. It's just setting things up so that I can have time in April, May to go to Nepal and China. But you know, I don't necessarily call it a holiday. It's an experience, like we're going to travel, we're going to hike.

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27: And then yeah, run into the end of the year. And this time, like I love Christmas, but at the same time, I don't feel like I have to wrap things up in my business. So it's not like everyone keeps asking, So when do you finish for the year? And it's like, well, I don't really consider what I do week to week that stressful or that, you know, demanding that I need to take a break from it.

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27: But so it's like, it's really awkward question or really difficult for me to answer.

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27: Yes, for which we are creating a life that we don't want to escape from. Yeah, we're creating lives that we are loving living. And so

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27: you know, you for me, it's, you know, Finn's still in childcare. And so I don't have to abide the school holidays and understand up with school. Sometimes that is they kind of set periods but even then there are programs or there are support around that too. But I said, I'll be working, I'll just I'll take the public holidays off and go goes and then I'll work the days that he's at school, like but make sure you take a break. And I was like, but sometimes a day or two is a lovely break. Sometimes I take well, I take a break in my day, I'll go and have a swim today. Where can I take a break every day, as opposed to the lapse for two weeks. I know like this was my first meeting today like so for reference, it's 1245 This morning, I went for a walk, I did some cleaning reorganize my desk, you know, had lovely breakfast. And so this was the first thing I did today. But this was like a regular workday for me. Sometimes I'll have one meeting, sometimes I'll have two sometimes I'll sit on my computer and create content for a couple hours. But this is what everyday looks like. It's lovely. It's it's nice to remember that I know that even even having done it for 14 years, there's sometimes there's just such this energetic pool towards the nine to five, but there are times where I'm like, or I'm gonna change the time change the Queensland. So it's like 8am and I'm going oh my gosh, the workday started because it's 9am in Sydney, and I was like, but I don't care. I think have a meeting at nine today. So that's fine. I had a meeting which I was excited about at nine o'clock. But other than that, why don't I have I didn't have to do anything until that time. But we can deal weekend one can and I do sometimes feel that pull of the workday and you're like, but why and anything on a minute. Really, like outside of me and it's having to have that quick conversation with myself that yes, I can make the decision to just go for a walk or just have an extra sit here on the, you know, the balcony for an extra 20 minutes or whatever. Like who's going to tell me off me.

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29: This happened to me when I first left so I left my full time job

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30: of 12 months ago. And when I first left, so I went from like having my own yoga and wellness business, my own marketing and business coaching and working nine to five, I went from that just back into wellness and business coaching. And I was finding myself sitting at my desk from nine until five. And a lot of the time I couldn't even explain what I was doing. Like a lot of what I was doing, I thought it was productive, unnecessary, but it really wasn't. And I was just trying to fill in the hours that I thought I should be working. And I mentioned this to someone and they referenced it as a nine to five hangover. Yeah. So it's like that period of time. And like some people might experience it when they retire. Or when they go on leave for a long period of time. But they finish they finish work or they finish work. This working for someone else where they feel like they have to be busy for all the hours that they're this space working for someone else, and then moving into their own thing. And it's like,

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30: wait a minute, and so you kind of have to like reset and slow down. And sometimes it's easy to get caught up in that nine to five mentality thing. Oh, yeah, absolutely does feel like a hangover. And so the irony is that I never really did it. So.

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31: But there's this just such a strong culture that you can just get sort of absorbed. And you can read those mysteries and see the reels that are out there like point of view. Yeah, wrapping up the year wrapping up, like, crawl to the finish line. And I just I love what you said about that. I don't I don't need to wrap up my year. I don't need to wrap anything up. I like to view it as taking a time to celebrate. I think it's a nice time of reflection.

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31: It is kind of you know, is a time of celebration. And so maybe take that view of it. And if you want to do a what was the year like that's a nice time to do it. But it doesn't mean there's a there's no stop. There's no line in the sand that says this is it.

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31: Yeah, and doesn't hit 31st of December and everything from this year dissolves the Mayan clock like oh my gosh. Like it's like to cut time ticks over and go. Oh, okay. Yeah. So first off, thank goodness.

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32: But does it like the fireworks go on as a you know, when you're not at a party? What do you do the hoo ha, you sort of live video Oh, Happy New Year, just go to bed. You wake up the next day. And it's it's another day and another time to do more opportunities. But we've kind of covered it in some ways. But you know, you've done this visualization, you've done these. You really love the clarity that you have in that direction that you have. But can you tell us for you right now what does living a life you love look like?

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32: I think the biggest thing is freedom. So to be able to make spontaneous choices and go on adventures on a whim, or to be able to go and do something without having to ask someone for permission to be able to go and do it.

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32: I think that's the ultimate flex with living a life he loves. So filling it, you filling your day with things that bring you joy for the pure fact that they bring you joy. So having something that you're passionate about where you find your purpose, and you're able to fulfill that and live that every day. Plus, take time to do things that you love for the pure purpose that you love it not because it's going to grow your business not because it's going to clear your mind not because it's going to, you know, assist someone else, you're literally doing something because you love it and you just want to do it. Yes, I love it. It's really so lovely to see. I mean, I guess it's been nearly two years that to see your journey and to get to still you know, just to see the evolution and to see where it's going and so excited for you. And I'm so excited for us. I know we're gonna do some, there's gonna be some fun things. I've already planned a road trip in, we haven't planned it. I've mapped out the road trip. So I'm going to come and see you in person in 2024, and it's going to be just for us, I'm going to bring my friend, we're going to come and I said we're going we're going here, here and here. It's a girls trip. It's a road trip. I mean there's always like work brain on but like it's just because

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34: just for an experience. The joy just Yeah. Oh gender loving. There's a little agenda but like just Tinder of joy. I mean, I can't come I'm still me. I can't have an itinerary or an agenda. textboxes but I'm like it's an agenda of seeing people and in doing joyful things and getting to have an experience. Why can't we do things just for that? Yeah, I love it. Can't wait to tell me tell us how can we connect with you and what have you got on? Tell us the things.

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34: The easiest way to connect with me I think is my instagram at Kate astral underscore, and what's on for next year. So I'm moving very much into this space of teaching entrepreneurs how to use social media with intention and purpose of driving sales to their offers. I've got a lot

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35: Agile coaching program Mind Body business. And it's where we go into what we've spoken about today. So designing that life, designing business around life. There's Yeah, lots of things. It's all posted on my social media. And we love it. Yes. And Kate is so much goodness, you can go down the wonderful rabbit hole will have brilliant experimentation, content, go binge the content. Thank you for your conversations. Thanks, Emma.

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35: Thank you for listening. Lovely one. I hope this has inspired you to dream big and start creating a life you'd love today. If you love what you're hearing, don't forget to follow and rate on Spotify and rate review and subscribe on iTunes. It helps other awesome people to find this podcast and get motivated and inspired as well. Want to stay connected? Come and join the live a life you love group on Facebook or connect with me on Instagram. Emma lovell.au, the same as my website. But all the details are in the show notes lovely. I'll see you next episode for more inspiration, motivation and freedom seeking Now go out there and live a life you love