Fit, Fierce and Fabulous with Nikki Cinch

#43 Nikki Ellis (EDITED)

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Fri, Feb 02, 2024 7: Emma Lovell

Emma Lovell 00: 01

Emma Lovell 00: Do you want to live a life of freedom and adventure? Are you wanting more than the daily grind?

00: 05

00: Me too.

Emma Lovell 00: 06

Emma Lovell 00: Welcome to the Emma Lovell show, a place where we talk about living a life you love now, I'm your host, Emma Lovell, and my number one value is freedom. I've spent the last 14 years running a business and traveling the world. And now I take my husband and toddler along for the adventure to it's possible and I know you can create a life doing what you truly love as well. This podcast will inspire, motivate and encourage you to go after your dreams to create a life you love until you get now don't wait for a time and or someday in the future. I'll be sharing episodes weekly about how I harmonize business travel and self care. I'll also bring on incredible guests to share their journeys, wins the challenges and how they're creating a life they love. Let's jump in and get dreaming. This is a space for you to manifest a life you love. I would like to acknowledge and recognize Aboriginal and Torres Strait Islander peoples as the first peoples of this place now known as Australia. I am grateful for the continuing care of the land waterways and skies where I work live. Listen, learn and play. From here on you can bear country and from wherever you are listening. I pay my respects to the elders past and present. Welcome to today's podcast I have the fabulous the fate and affairs Nikki Ellis. Nikki is a transformation specialist and she happens to be my virtual personal trainer. I met Nikki through a wonderful business checks but also through Jade warns Instagram growth club and just saw her all over online and knew I had to have her in my world. She used to be a uni academic and she's turned entrepreneur, and she's passionate about helping women feel strong, confident and badass by falling in love with weight training. She says she's the world's laziest PT and she wants to do the least work for the most results and she doesn't get Kate gate keep her secrets. She's here to tell the world all about it. And she says if you're also struggling with perimenopause or menopause, she's definitely the PT for you. It was hearing her on a podcast that made me actually want to work converted into working with Nikki so please enjoy hearing this wonderful woman's approach to life, her joyous approach to life and just simply her fabulousness that comes across in all aspects of what she does. Please welcome to the podcast, Nikki Ellis. Welcome to the podcast. Nikki elder's.

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02: Oh, thank you, Emma Lovell. lovely to be here.

Emma Lovell 02: 51

Emma Lovell 02: It's so fun because it's not our first rodeo together. I was you were on my podcast, my living love your brand podcast. And now then I was on your podcast. And now you're back. And I feel like we have a little bit of podcast Inception because we have this little trio of jade you and I always sort of listen to each other's podcasts. And me being on your podcast talking about India inspired Jade to come to India and then Jane talking about our experience in India on my podcast, then, you know, inspired you. Yeah.

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03: That's funny.

Emma Lovell 03: 30

Emma Lovell 03: Yeah. The power of podcasts. And it's so nice because you, we sit here and we're having a conversation, and it's lovely. And especially I think once you get into a conversation, and you're so wonderfully engaging Nikki and then you say stuff, and then you put it out and you kind of forget about it. And then someone comes back and says You said this thing and it made me do this thing. 100%

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03: and I know that you podcast a lot and so do our due to weak generally. And so I can say something. And especially I don't know if you heard this ama but sometimes I'll do a podcast. And there's this maybe me on my own talking, and I recorded and it's all gone. It's out into the you know, the podcast land, but i My heart thing. I think that was my best work. You know, that was maybe a little bit a little bit weak. I forgot to mention this and and then somebody will come back and say that was my favorite one. That's the one that really made me sign up to go to India or sign up to work with you, or whatever it is, you think, Gosh, you just never know what you say. And when you say it when it's gonna resonate with somebody. So you're so correct.

Emma Lovell 04: 39

Emma Lovell 04: With that thing of showing up, isn't it you show up? You do the thing and think you've been wonderful with me with that because Nikki is my virtual personal trainer. And, you know, I think it's that, you know, we think it has to look a certain way every day. You know, every time every time I go the gym or every time I do a swim it has to be the thing that I set out to do and You know, today I was going to do 30 laps before I come, and I started going and my shoulders were sore, and my back was sore. And mine wasn't doing what it was meant to do. And I got, I thought, I really want to go do this thing. I was like, You know what, I've done 12 laps. Yeah, if you would be like, that's great, oh, my eight in the list, but it's like, I still went, I still need it. And there's so I think, especially in my fitness journey, and it applies to the business journeys that so many times I've gone, it's not worth doing, I can't do all the things. So if I can't do the full workout for an hour, or if I can't make the whole podcast, and it's not gonna be the most brilliant test, I just won't do it at all. Which is not true.

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05: It's not true. And you know, it's very much about, you know, you're talking really about progress over perfection. And I as a trainer, when I hear over and over again, is people will say to me, on a hit, I'm an all or nothing person, you know. And so if you tie into that, and you hold on to that mentality, it does mean that you think I've got a bit of a sore shoulder, I won't swim at all, rather than going down to the pool, maybe just enjoying being in the sunshine and the beautiful pool, and you might see a cute dog that lifts your spirits a little bit. Yeah, it's always worth doing a little bit. And I feel like that's something I think I've only got a couple of 1000 steps to do to get my 10,000 I'd I go for a walk. And that's the walk, I'll do or I see a neighbor who's been battling cancer, we just walk around the block together and really connect and like, that was beautiful. I'm so glad I took the time to go and do it. So always do the thing, even if it's not quite there, you know? Is it Seth Seth Godin, who says shipping, like decide you're going to do something, get it out there, whether it's writing a book, or you know, doing a podcast, you decided to do it, it was gonna go on that day, just get it out. It doesn't have to be perfect. And sometimes when you've got enough volume and what you're producing, you can't aim for perfection. You just got to get stuff out. Yeah,

Emma Lovell 06: 59

Emma Lovell 06: and deadlines are great for that. But I didn't giggle when he said the dog because there's, I think it's in one of your it's your Monday motivation. It might even be your extended interview, like, just go and see a cute dog and it'll be

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07: a child that has a cute dog. Yeah. And I'm very big Emma, in case you wonder why on earth I say all that stuff. It's about those little micro interactions that you have. That is sometimes the most important parts of your day. It's that little five minute chat you have with your barista while they make your coffee. And you hear a little bit about their lives. So they asked you about yours. It is the little kid that you have seen make their day because you wave to them, you know, or it might be that Hello, you say to a little old lady she's walking out you might be the only person she says hello to on the day. So those little tiny interactions are way more important than sometimes we give them credit.

Emma Lovell 07: 53

Emma Lovell 07: Yeah, and there's little I think, you know, again, I do have your mind mind a lot. I do think Michaela but it's not because we're both prolific on social media, but you know, that little voice in my head, which is a lovely voice to have because there's been days where because I've got back into my swimming and I am sitting here for the people not watching the video. Literally wearing my swimming costume because everyone knows fabulous sunglasses. Oh, no. You know, I was like I put it I want to I mean motivated. I'm like, I'm like having done some some fitness. Lovely. In a good way not in it. Oh my gosh, she's gonna tell me off you know. But you, you know had a few times last week or the week before where I thought I really want to get so hot. I want to go in the pool or making I'm so hot. We're up here in Queensland and so humid. You've been wait woken by the heat. And so I think I'll just go, I'll go for a swim. But then I started thinking, Oh, well, then I have to do laps. Now I don't like like I just, I can't it's like, oh, I'm allowed to just go and just jump in the pool and float around for a couple minutes and get some sunshine and just refresh and then come back up. And you know, but he's just it's so easy to get go it has to look this way, or it has to be this way or half thing once so I've got to keep doing it to that level and to that volume. Yeah,

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09: absolutely. I mean, we do that with our businesses as well don't we, that we I think we size for pressure on ourselves that we must every day we must be really moving forward. But in reality we all have days where you know, we kind of clean our desk up a bit and sharpen our pencils and metaphorical pencils and clean out our emails and just having really a buffer day, you know, and that is okay, those are essential as well because we're not always gonna be 100% switched on. And Natalie motivated in our businesses any more than we are in our, in our private lives and in our exercise lives. So yeah, we kind of substance like, at the same time, we can't just float on our backs in the pool every single day because we're not going to get better. But on those days when you really just cannot do it, you weigh it all up. Today, it's gonna be an easy day and that's absolutely fine. We're not all David Goggins. I don't know if you follow David Goggins on Instagram likes to sanheim. But David Goggins. If you think of a spectrum of people exercising, where on one end, you've got somebody who's just ridiculously disciplined, and you know, how to just do the work. And then on the other hand, you have somebody who's just like lying on the couch all day eating chocolates, or David Goggins is the guy at the far end of the discipline, spectrum, he just randomly was decide he's going to do 100 100 mile run in the middle of the night, and his wife's there driving beside him in the car, or he just runs along on his poor bleeding feet. It's like, Oh, my God, like, make stuff. I love that he does that. I love that there's people out pushing themselves to the absolute limit. We need those people to but honestly, him, I don't think that's you and I.

Emma Lovell 11: 09

Emma Lovell 11: And we accept us for who we are, we have called this episode of fit, and fierce and fabulous. And yeah, that beautiful combination, and that, you know, and again, coming back to like, I love your approach, and I didn't actually find, well, sorry, I didn't find anything. I've just had multiple ways that we've come together. And it's like, we just have to be in each other's world. But we were both business chicks members and in business club, and then we're both connected with Jade and Instagram growth club. And then on the socials, we both have a dear friend who we connected to Karen Hart. But it was on just a Maclean's podcast where you were interviewed, and you were talking about the way that you support women. And I literally called you straight after you. Yeah. Well, I just felt like, I have struggled a lot. And it's funny, you know, like, my husband basically told me I was not trainable, because I had clashed with other trainers. But

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12: I haven't tried it before.

Emma Lovell 12: 15

Emma Lovell 12: Um, yeah, I don't want to because I don't like being told what to do. I'm alone. Oh. And I don't like being told what to do. But I don't, what I don't like that being told to do is when somebody doesn't understand me, and at the same time with accountants, and I just feel like I'm attracting all the wonderful people into my world. I'm about to start working with a beautiful bookkeeper. But like, I was emailing my accountant today, and I'm telling you that I'm going to sell my handbag. She's like, I told her all these other things. Like, I agree with all those things. I think it's great, but you're not selling the handbag. One, right. Yeah. I'm thinking that so it will say, but, you know, she gets me we have a conversation. She follows me on Instagram. So she understands what I do in my business. But what I do in my life and talk to me from that perspective, and the same thing, just a McClane whose podcast you were on. When she talked to me about pricing and and about the offers that I have, she talked about it from what I'm doing, not what Nikki's doing, not what this person's doing, what they're doing it their stage of life, she talked to me from she's like, where you're at right now, where your energies out what you're doing. And that's what I heard with you is like, you understand, and you see me, and you're not going to subscribe me to a plan or put me on a plan. But someone who doesn't have a toddler, don't run this don't have when I came to you the very, very low level of energy that I have, and just go yeah, you're gonna go and do this problem was was so a lot of the problem I had was that it was cookie cutter. And that it was just that basic things. I like being told that I couldn't you know, this meant to be you talking Nikki? Haley, well, how many kids you're just gonna sit here and listen

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13: to interesting keep on going on.

Emma Lovell 13: 55

Emma Lovell 13: But you know, like, so I had this trainer who I showed him my food diary. And he was like, told me off about avocado, but told me it's fine to eat a chocolate biscuit. And I was just like, you just looking at the paper and not applying it to my life. And so then it was confusing information. And it was just like, it wasn't sort of like a lifestyle perspective. Like, I don't want to work with you. And so, yeah, I don't think I'm difficult. I don't think I'm untrainable I think that I need to find the right fit in some way. Oh, 100% No,

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14: you are you're not only highly trainable, you're you're very coachable. You're a delight to work with. I mean, there is absolutely no issue there. But I think that perhaps particularly with personal training, because I think personal training sometimes does attract those people who are super disciplined and come from a very sporty background and define themselves perhaps sometimes by their physiques or by their success in sport. They don't always understand that it's for the clients. It's not their whole life, you know, they don't want to step up necessarily onto a bodybuilding stage. They just want to feel have fish in fierce and fabulous you know after having a baby or maybe pre med pre menopausal stage or menopausal stage. So, sometimes having a few more years under your belt as a trainer, you it really helps you know, just to get a little bit more empathy, a few more life skills and to experience you know sleepless nights with babies and toddlers and you know worries some nights with surly teenagers and all of the things that we all go through and then sleepless nights perimenopause. experience really helps with empathy just finding finder as you get older you so you get that none of us respond well to really utilitarian approach of you must do this. And when the person is checking in with you with you saying, you know, look here, I've done this, why not? You know, I want answers. It's not nice, nobody, nobody likes that.

Emma Lovell 15: 55

Emma Lovell 15: It shaming, it's cheating. It's a response.

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15: Well, to that no one. So yeah,

Emma Lovell 16: 02

Emma Lovell 16: and I think the challenge for me was as well with the travel and just not having a doctoral program. And so when I had this idea of like a virtual trainer and I, it's one of these things with things are right in front of your eyes, but you don't look and today I'm actually at my in laws, holiday house. I mean, there's a gym here, there was a sauna that I'd walked past so many times that we were going and paying and they are lovely infrared saunas, but I've been paying to go to the infrared sauna, a sauna at my fingertips. That you know, where I'm gonna say diagnose, you know, like prescribed you prescribed, like, I prescribe massages, I prescribe saunas. I prescribe sunshine, I prescribe prescribe petting dogs, and probably like, I think my first initial thing, it was like, you're only gonna go to the gym once, maybe twice a month. Yeah.

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16: That's right. I wanted to be keen to do more. Yeah, and you'd be sore. So it's, you know, I think once or twice starting up, when you haven't been doing much at all, in terms of gym work. It's enough. It's enough, along with clients, like, Oh, give me more. That's good. That's a good sign.

Emma Lovell 17: 11

Emma Lovell 17: How do I up here? How do I change it? You know, the distribution side, and it was lovely to be able to go as well. Not ready for the nutrition like, I don't want to go in and it's, again, all or nothing. It's like, I can't get to change all that soon. And do all that, you know, do this program or, or it was so yeah, eight week based 12 week based, and then it's like, but what happens next?

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17: I know. Yeah.

Emma Lovell 17: 35

Emma Lovell 17: And I

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17: think we've all fallen into that, you know, those challenges can look very appealing. But I it's very hard to overhaul your entire life, you know, and so you try not to do it. I think for a very short amount of time that you're right, what happens when we finish we go back to all those old habits. So I think that breaking it down and just focusing on one little bit and then adding another little bit once you've got that bit sorted. So starting say on the on the weight training, moving into the nutrition, and then it starts to all come together and yeah, right approach.

Emma Lovell 18: 06

Emma Lovell 18: I think the other the other attraction to you is not only what you said, and how compassionate and kind and just like I was just like I need this. But then I see all of your content and you are just so joyful, like looking fabulous today as she always does with metallic green eyeshadow on it. And that's not just for a podcast, gets fully blown glammed up and then goes and does like a spin class and I'm just like, who are you?

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I know. It's all very curated, I guess is because you just want to think sort of slowly developed over time. So 30 years ago, I wasn't doing this I was going up to up to the studio or up to the gym where I worked at the time and the t shirt and shorts and you know, no makeup with my hair in a ponytail. But this has become part of my identity I guess. And I do love getting dressed up don't get me wrong, I love it. And I'm always the overdressed person at the party. But my clients I think they love it and they recognize this as part of me but I'm very much I'm like a flight attendant you know, I want to be at the studio at 5: 30am looking like I want to be there looking ready to go and over my years of being a trainer and I'm going to become guys just because guys tend to check their faces. The number of times I've been at studios or gyms early in the morning and seen that male trainers come in unshaven you know Runkel T shirts that looks like they slept in them and really not looking like they're ready to train anyone. So it's really an antithesis or a reaction to that is that I'm there and no matter what time of day you see me at Studio, I am ready to go 100% switched on and focused on you. And it's just part of what helps me get ready for my day and, and even as I'm driving to my studio, I'm setting my intentions i always listened to. I love Gabby Bernstein and she's got an app now. So I always listen to like a section of one of her talks while I'm getting ready in the morning, and it takes 15 minutes to get ready. And then as I'm driving, I'm thinking to myself, What am I going to bring to my clients this morning, and I always sort of put it out to the universe and say, I want to have everyone leaving my studio feeling happy and feeling ready to face that day. And I want to be kind and empathetic, and I want to lift everyone I meet up today. And it's beautiful, because you and I both know how much your vibe not only attracts your tribe, and you and I've talked about this quite a lot, but your vibe brings, it affects everyone else's vibe to it, you know, and your energy is contagious. So I know when I can get myself into the right mindset, I'm really am spreading, spreading the joy for people to go off into their little workplaces all over Melbourne. And they do the same. And so because they're all managers, and they just take some doctors and all these incredible things. And so they're doing that too. And so it's just just such a nice thing. It's such a privilege to be able to do that. But your

Emma Lovell 21: 18

Emma Lovell 21: energy is more contagious than that. Like it's, you know, your joy to watch and the add on to your podcast platform. And then you land in my, you know, your Atlanta in my messages. And then I see you on the socials and, you know, I get FOMO I'm like, I want to come and be there and up. And, you know, there's so much dedication and giving that you do and I, I just I have seen it. But I've also experienced it and having a trainer in your pocket, like I do is so lovely. It's you know, like I said, You're in my mind, but then, you know, even though I get FOMO, like it would be fun to get to come to the studio, I feel like I get to be a part of it too, because you share so much of it. And you do show that you show us how it's working and how it's happening. And then just seeing you like that joy is spread much further than that, that room that

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22: yeah, that's that's really lovely, Emma, you know, my remote clients are very dear to my heart. And I don't have all that many of you because you know how close the relationship is, I can't I can't really upscale what I do with my remote clients. In this way, I have got other programs that that 1000s People could sign up to, but this one where you text me if you're standing in the gym and say, Nikki, I'm in Mexico, you know, what do I do with this gym with this one pink dumbbell and I don't know what that machine is. And I think that's a foam roller that's been set on, you know, what do I do? And I'm like, Oh, hang on a minute, let's put something together. And yeah, that's very bespoke service. You know, so I that is special. And so I absolutely love it. And I love the challenges of working with people who who don't have that, you know, that's in studio contact with me, because how do I create a an experience for you that is delightful and surprising and energizing. So but you're easy, because you do you are on social media so much. And you see what we do, it's a little harder when people don't do that, because they kind of they kind of miss out on the vibe that we are creating the energy of

Emma Lovell 23: 23

Emma Lovell 23: accountability, and I love that and then, you know, it's fallacious. And everything comes back to relationship building. And I think that's where some of those places all over as well, it just, it's, it's that cookie cutter, it's a it's a numbers game. It's a volume game. And I love that. I mean, if you want to share a little bit of how that transition happened, or, you know, the because you have had studios over the years, and you've been in the game quite a long time. So was it just COVID that made the virtual thing happen? Or how is that evolved? Yes,

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23: it was I'd never really thought of myself as a virtual trainer before and I'm still kind of fine tuning it and you're you probably feel that too am I sort of add new things in and but yeah, definitely COVID was was it I mean the whole business really, the lock downs were very transformational for me as personally as a trainer and in my approach to clients and I think the big thing was of course we we closed our doors and we will really gyms really got hit fairly hard over over the lock downs which I think was the right call and but we'll closed almost entirely for two years. And I just I am so proud of how cinch hoped with those two years because we did go completely online and I was running sometimes some days like five online sessions in a day we ran online wine tasting like when I could I actually organized with one of our clients and owns a like a wine. I didn't call it a vineyard as I've worked with her to get like wine out to everyone's doorsteps I mean now as opposed to trying to think gosh is going on. Best idea but hey, you know all bets are off. So everyone did I did a virtual wine tasting and we ran trivialize it, we just pulled out all stops to not only train people, but to be that little beacon of joy in client's lives. And it was just such as special time really, because I honestly feel like I just killed myself doing it. But even now, two years down the track clients were still take me aside and go, I just, you got me through lockdowns like you you it was, you know, seeing your smiling face every day. And that completely changed me as a trainer, I realized that training is about way more than writing a kickass program or a really effective program. It's about way more than just having a nice studio. It is about your your heart and soul and connecting with people and relationships, exactly, as you say, and reading the room and seeing when do people need more from me. And I think what I'm seeing now is the importance of community for people. And we can have a community when you're a remote client as well, you are part of my community, Emma and my other girls, I try and but certainly, if you are listening to this and thinking my channel, I don't have any community, I'm just going I'm trying to go home, and maybe contemplate looking for somewhere where they do build that. Because it's so important, especially when so many of us are still working remotely. If you're only going into the office two days a week, and you've started to feel a bit lonely and you're not seeing your friends as much as you should. A gym is a great place to have a whole lot of friends and people who love you and support you. It's great. So yeah, so that transition and you know, the other thing about it, it made me go What the hell what am I doing? Not really going out there into the world and talking more about what I do. And so I really lifted and you know what I do now I have I'm so all over social media. And I've got a agent now and I'm, you know, doing all of this promotional things. Just I you know, I'm getting older, I've got to do it now. Or it may not happen. I don't want to be trying to do it. And I'm 85 I need to do it now. I probably will be perfect. I think that age is working in my favor, because people like I'm old, which is awesome. Yeah.

Emma Lovell 27: 27

Emma Lovell 27: I look up to you so much. But that was actually that was the thing that made me high. You that what I said to myself was like, not that it's all well and good for but it's like you look at say your Jennifer Aniston a different thing. But like there are these fabulous women who are 50 in their 50s. And you know, sort of capacity. Your target is people with perimenopause, and I'm just going to you know, go stereotypically thinking around the 50 mark. And I thought look at Nikki, she's so fabulous. She's so fit, when I'm 50 I can be that fit and fabulous. But I'm like, but I'm 36 So what I got to wait 14 years, 14 years, I'm just gonna be like that like, and it was like very

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28: warped way of looking at it. And so, yeah, it does get a little harder as we get older. So you can 100 You know, do it. I said he says I and by the way, you'll gilding the lily a little bit. I think the listeners I think you all right, she's 50 I'm actually not I'm closer to 60 than I am 50 even

Emma Lovell 28: 27

Emma Lovell 28: more excited. Like, fabulous. You are but like, but it was yeah, the job to go, oh my god, like I'm just thinking that, you know, future mo will figure it out. But it's like, no, I want to be in my best energy and in feeling fabulous. Now and then continue to be that way in 14 years, and continue to be that way.

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28: Absolutely. I mean, whatever you're doing now, you are creating the landscape for your future self. You know, if you're running a business you are creating hopefully that financial stability or even better wealth for when you retire or when you're 90 or you know, you might still be working until the day you dropped it. But you know, whatever you do, you are creating your future. And that same with your your future self in terms of your fitness and particularly strength and muscle, you know, and I really would love it if more teenage girls really fell in love with weight training, which I think they are there's been a real zeitgeist of weight training and I saw this great of a clip that I actually put on my stories today, which the ABC did about you know, something like doubled the number of men that were before locked down with weightlifting and now weightlifting but it's five times the number of women like we have really stepped up and when we talk about lifting weights, I'm gonna be quite quite brutally honest here. I'm not We're talking about franchises where you do set weights that are put out on the ground for you. And you just grab a set of five kilo dumbbells and do some leg raises, and then you do some burpees. And then you run to the corner shop and back. And then you do some deadlifts, and nothing's written down and nothing's really prescribed, it might be a different exercise, no different workout, every time you go to that studio, I'm talking about lifting heavy shit. Basically, I'm talking about progressing with your training, and getting stronger over time and getting really seriously strong because that's what you need to do to put on some muscle. I remember a few years ago, many years ago, probably eight is a great is going to go I went round all the promises in pretty much Melbourne, I think I delivered this talk like 18 times, and to 1000s and 1000s of older adults. And I talked about the importance of of resistance training, and how to really lift weights. And it was almost like I remember hearing the story once Emma have a whole lot of lovely, older older women were put into a cinema. And they watched a film of something like Pulp Fiction. And at the end of the film, the women were asked to say how much swearing was in that film. And they just were like, it didn't hear any swearing. Did you hear any swearing? No. Because that was so. So not focused on that. It's that they just blocked it out. They didn't hear it. So I would think the opposite. I would think that'd be highly offended. But no, they were just like, did not even could not penetrate their reality. And it was a little bit like this is talking to these older adults, because they listened very politely to my entire talk, where I literally said things like gardening is not enough. Walking is not enough. It is not too late to start lifting weights, we see great results. Even with octo and nano generic ones, you can get stronger at any age. Up to it the NSA was lovely dia, we loved your talk. You're You're so engaging. And you know what? I got an every day. Oh, you'd be so proud of me and statistics. Oh, that's so good. Do you lift any weights? Oh, no, no, no, I'm way too old for that. I was like I was talking to them. And they enjoyed it, and did not penetrate that they glass, you know, cone of silence. You know, it's so it's so challenging. But I do feel like there has been a turn. And we are now getting to a point where women in particular, are really understanding. We need to lift heavy weights, we know you need to do it to be strong and to lay that muscle down ideally when we're teenagers, and then maintain it until we're very old women, that it's great for mental health. It's great for our community. It's just great for our metabolic health. There is nothing not to like about weight training. It's nice

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Emma Lovell 33: to feel that like and I think I hadn't wanted to do that. I didn't want to do Yeah, have the strain. I guess I felt like I don't was I think my body was just so heavy from below the emotion and energetic things that were going on. That I already felt so heavy. Yeah. To want to feel lighter. So ironically, it's like I want to feel I want to get denser, so I can feel like, yeah, you know, today I feel I got to the point where I wanted to have that good burn and I wanted to have the goods. And like today I'm sore. But it's like, I know I did something and I did send Nikki a video yesterday of I will post it on my socials of me doing a leg press with the most gorgeous view at the Langham and I felt proud and I feel good to be Yeah, like, you know, having to just kind of pushing myself.

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33: Yeah. Have you ever heard of the term internal locus of control? Okay, have you heard a flow state? Yes, yes. So with any, anything that you do, that you really enjoy it, and it might even be a conversation like this one Mr. We were just vibing off each other and we're loving chatting. And the time is going by in a flash. And that is kind of the essence of flow state. And it's also called, sometimes it's called internal locus of control. But that is when you have to focus really hard on what you're doing to get into that flow state, if you will. So a great example is something like rock climbing, you know, you really do need to be focused, you'd be thinking about what you're doing to stay safe or skiing or and I would really put something like weight training into that same category. You need to be thinking about okay, have I got my collars on if I got even weights on each side? Have I approached the bar correctly? You know, am I positioned correctly on the leg press I guess thinking about all the technicalities of the lifts. And then you might just be thinking, oh my god, this is hard. Okay? Count my reps down from 12. Okay, here we go. And so what it does is it frees your mind up of all the other stresses that are going on in your life. And I know that you do have a lot of emotional stuff going on for you at the moment, especially with your nephew, and you just just kind of just have in my time, even if it's just for 30 minutes, even if it's just for 45 minutes. That is so great. So it, that's when we really talk about it becomes like moving meditation, because yeah, telling your mind. And I still think that it's good to do some do some meditation as well. A lot of people who love to go into flow state when they're training about how you and I don't meditate, I get I get it from my training, you know, but you you also it's good just decision silence. Yes. And it's good for go to go for nature walks, and it's good to get into flow state when you're training. You know, I feel like any opportunity you can get to give your your brain a little bit of a rest is awesome. But that's, that's again, one of the special things with training.

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Emma Lovell 36: Hey, lovely, I want to open the doors to incredible opportunities for you on an all inclusive luxury retreat exclusively for people who are ready to live a life they love. I invite you to join me for five inspiring nights in sensational SriLanka for the rest and receive retreat, hosted from second to seventh of November 2024. by yours truly Mr. Level, I asked you to disconnect your senses and immerse in this exotic culture while you reconnect with yourself. You get to share this luxurious experience with 12 incredible people, while forming connections that last a lifetime. I really cannot undersell or overestimate this incredible retreat and the magic of going to a place to give yourself space and time. I want to share it with you. And if you are interested, then please head to my website. Emma lovell.au/srilankan Retreat. I'd love to see you there. And I'm happy to chat. If you have any questions whatsoever. Please take this opportunity to come along and join me in stunning Sri Lanka. I would have said that Yeah, you said skiing is example. That's exactly what snowboarding is. And I've always said it's like meditate, because it's Well, it's the stillness most of the time. You know, sometimes his busiest slopes, but there's often times where you're the only one there. It's white. So so so it's very, it's not. There are some visually lovely things, but it's really like mountain tree snow, like, yeah, it's not a lot of stimuli. And then I do sometimes like to listen to music, but sometimes it's that quiet and just the swishing. And then you have to focus because I go fast and return that is I take one wrong turn, if I'm if my posture is not and I know that because I broke my back snowboarding. So

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38: oh my gosh, yeah, is

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Emma Lovell 38: there a conscious that of what I was doing at the time that I went off, but after having that major incident, I was like, I don't want to do that again. I don't want to go through that again. So I'm very focused, and I just love that and then the chairlift back hard like it's all it's all very dry, and

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38: it feels like a wonderland or snowed. It feels like a totally different reality. So it's yeah, there's something very special about any of those winter sports. I mean, you need to retreat at the snow and up.

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Emma Lovell 38: Nick, you got to meet a lot of me. And I know I haven't got a planning but I'm like, That's a great idea. But I don't know, I don't need a lot of encouragement. No,

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38: no, I know, oh, God, I'm thinking, Oh, my God, I wish she hadn't said that now, because I'm going to be planning that, what how

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Emma Lovell 39: my whole afternoon, gonna be in the date of retreat planning. Now I have two other retreats I've got to work on in the meantime, and one of them is the one that you're coming on, which is a dream come true. And I

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39: seek way I know. It is a dream come true. I'm so excited. You know, I was

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Emma Lovell 39: listening to you before. But I also was listening and looking at you and just going I cannot wait to be in Sri Lanka with you like you're just such your ideal, the ideal client, I know that the energy that you're going to bring the, the just the approach you're going to bring I just I know that the group is going to be better because you're in it. Oh,

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39: that's incredibly kind. Thank you so much. And it is useful, isn't it? When you have somebody go, I can't I just want more of that person in my business or in my studio because it makes it easier then for you to market to that particular person. So it worked because you got me because that's it out. And I absolutely cannot wait. And I think that if you're listening to this, and you're sort of sitting on the fence, I mean, this is going to be first of all, it would be a fabulous route. Because you've got me you've got myself, you've got Jade, and we're just going to have so much fun, aren't we? But I'm all for how do you tie in travel with your business, and for this to be a bonafide business expense? For me, it is an absolute no brainer. absolute no brainer. And I know that I'm gonna meet a whole lot of women who I can network with, and probably become lifelong friends. You know, it's just, you know, it's, it's kind of amazing. When

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Emma Lovell 40: it's something like that, I think you said as well. Sometimes it's going to a place like Sri Lanka or India that I went to last year, sometimes it's not a place necessarily that your family or friends. And so having, and also they are slightly daunting places. I know you recently went to Bali, and that's fabulous. And I think there are certain places people are quite happy to go to or go back to, but there are other places that they like, Oh, that's a little bit. That's a little bit more a stretch. I mean to the heard of Sri Lanka, it's a budget country. It's in the cricket so Australians should know Sri Lanka. Yeah. It's you know, people like where is it? You know, where in the world is it? Where what is this place? What Why SriLanka and for me, it's it is that some of the reason it is a bit more challenging, it is so different to dailies, that we know it is exotic, it's, it's very luscious. And I can just deliver a much more luxurious and leveled up experience because because it is, you know, for generally for Westerners and more affordable, but like anything, they have all levels of societies. So you can you can get super Luxe, and you can get, you know, super sort of affordable, but yeah, lux, we're taking it to the Lux luxury, escape, switch off from your day to day, and just yet really connect with the people with the country and with yourself.

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42: Yeah, there's a couple of things I want to get us to like really resonated with. One is I just tracked down, they pulled out because I want to come back to that. One is, you're right. I think that's true, like is quite a challenging place to go by yourself. I wouldn't I wouldn't do it. Although I will do some more traveling around after we finish our retreat. But I'm hoping that somebody else wants to come with me, you know, so that's fine. But I've traveled all over the world by myself. But when I was going to Morocco, I didn't feel comfortable doing that by myself. So I did go in a group tour. And it was the most fun I've ever had traveling anywhere ever. It's like why am I doing all this travel on my own? When I can do it in a group? Because I think sometimes people are worried that oh, gosh, what is? What is that one pain in the group? Or? What if I don't you know, what if some of those snores, I'm sure those are never an issue like it always seems to work out really well. And that comes from the person organizing the group that because you know your energy is so awesome, you attract amazing women, which I know is going to happen. So there's that that is one thing that I'm really excited about. Secondly, you mentioned level up and that this is going to be quite a Luke's tour. And we are we're not staying cheap and cheerful. We're doing it really nicely. Which you know, that's the way I like to go as well. But I think that brings us back to your handbag. And I think that handbag, she was so thrilled when you when you were chuffed, you know and to have a brand is that is it Chanel is it? If similar on Yes hellerup. So to have an arbitrary song, it just I bet that every time you use it, you're like this is this is like multi 1000 It's just levels you are and when you level up a little bit in one year of your life kind of blows on totally others. So I feel like your account and I don't think you should sell it on to it.

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Emma Lovell 44: I'll put a poll see what the poll says and

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44: it's not like you do do a poll. I can tell you right now with this, because it's not that I paid for it. You want it it is it is was given to you by the great lucky door prize gods of the universe. To sell it, enjoy it.

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Emma Lovell 44: Enjoy it, love it. Well there we go. Maybe maybe your wonderful spiel about Sri Lanka will sell that at night. I don't feel like I want to be a part of it. You know, and it's not just a financial it's, it is it does come with a little bit of maintenance. That's, that's probably where it's at. For me, it's a little bit of, I do want to take care of it. So when I take it, traveling, I put it in a bag, which I do with a high end thing. But you know, I've got all these other things. And I'm like, you know, I'm trying to grab a toddler bag as well as it is and, and it was lovely. You know, like you said, I leveled up, I was at the five star hotel, so it felt very appropriate to have it. There just saying is this sort of is it is a box that I've now ticked and it's like, yeah. Is it just not the practicality? Is there other ways that I can find this level of Lux? And so I'm sitting with it, I'm sitting with it.

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45: Yeah, that's, that's a different thing. Yeah. It's not real, yeah.

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Emma Lovell 45: Financial, you know, but it also is a wonderful actual value, because, you know, we sometimes get these things and you go, Oh, this will be valuable, or this is valuable. And it's like, if it's valuable to you, it's valuable at the time, but something that has ongoing value, and potentially even increasing value. There aren't that many things like your computer isn't your car, or your secondhand cars at the moment is selling for the same value. That's a weird one that's gone around, but most things have a depreciating values. So the things that have an increasing value, like and it's something that I am very aware of treasuring, but I'm like, I don't want it to become that it's so treasured and so special that I don't it's no longer practical. You know, I

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46: look I mean, the other thing is you could offer an up and serve as a prize like you know, and say, for the next how many how many spaces do you have for the retreat in Sri Lanka?

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Emma Lovell 46: I have before left or left

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46: you can offer it as a prize for the 12 people who have signed up for funding really, onto you

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Emma Lovell 47: manifesting that handbag will be in your wardrobe in love it should just learn it out and I will I will earn $100

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47: alone. Okay, for packaging. Yeah,

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Emma Lovell 47: we go. Okay, well, we've got all these ideas. I love it you can put two business women together without getting ideas as I said so excited and grateful and I just I can't honestly I love that are gonna be they're gonna be great energy, but I you know, can't wait to see what you were wanting it down about and through like a way to stay

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47: fine. No, look, I do love a bit of resort where I must say, and I always hire at least one Camilla kaftan. And I just think a Camilla captain in Sri Lanka. And then you cannot go wrong.

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Emma Lovell 48: I think I might be joining you on that. So yeah.

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48: I can get around shorts and a singlet like anybody else. I'm not I'm not wearing my Kelly Miller captain to the beach. But yeah, just a bit. dressed up.

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Emma Lovell 48: We went with it to the elephant sanctuary. I don't think I think more of a hotel pool.

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48: I think so. Yes, absolutely.

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Emma Lovell 48: Oh, Nikki, I want to talk to you forever. I'm going to let you go. But I will probably have you back. I no doubt we'll do a follow up episode. I've just really incredible talking to my clients about what they theory and it's time

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48: to be just magical. And look, if you if you aren't familiar with Sri Lanka, go on google it and have a look because it's such a country of diversity. You know, you've got big cities and you've got beautiful things and you've got an incredible rolling landscaping this, this train that we're gonna go on, it looks amazing. And then down south, you've got like all the safaris, and it's like, and then there's beaches, there's gorgeous, gorgeous beaches. There is so much to see. I actually have one of my clients who also fell out with Morocco when she went to Morocco and her husband was so conscious. So they are just constant travelers. They've been all over the world. And she has just the back from Sri Lanka and she's I'm seeing her tomorrow. But she was messaging me while she was awake. She knew I'm going to Sri Lanka and she was saying oh my god, Nikki like, I know you love Morocco and so do i But Sri Lanka, she said, I'm putting it above Morocco. She said it is that good. It's like oh, shoot whole massive. So yeah, it's it's going to be epic. Like I just keep saying to you, I don't want to wish the year away. I really don't. You know, I'm looking forward to enjoying this year. But wait till November. I am just so excited and we all know it's so important to have something to look for Are two. And the other thing I love is I get to pay this off and little chunks. So that's how I get to SriLanka. It'll be like, Oh, hasn't really cost you anything free holiday free. Spending money for me.

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Emma Lovell 50: It's something I was thinking about, again, while we've been speaking. And it's like, I love how I think there's been this thing sometimes where people think that if you work with someone like or if somebody's your client, then you can't then be their client as well, like you can't. Like, it's almost like a power dynamic sort of thing. Like, I'm, I'm the coach, so I will never buy from you because I'm the coach, and I'm, I'm the knowledgeable, superior. And it's like, you know, I'm the trainer, so I can't then go in, interact in this other way. I love how you and I are both, we're each other's clients. We're also both students and clients of Jade, you know, live from one another and learn from one another, and how fluid and yeah, I just No, respectful. It always Yeah, it's a really interesting

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51: point. And I don't know, if I've really experienced this as a trainer, when I was just had my little home studio as I was training a lot of the mums at the school. And so I would train people in my studio at home. And then 10 minutes later, I'd see the model school. And so I got very used to kind of switching identities from trainer to just Nikki, you know, how are you You know, and so I feel like, you do this very well. And I think that probably we all do, but I just compartmentalize aspects of my life. So when I've got my trainer hat on, I'm your trainer, but I can likewise be your friend. And I can likewise learn from you on the retreat. And the same thing was Jade, we just switch roles, the same as we switch roles from, you know, a wife to, you know, to a mom to a cyst on to a business woman, and I think this is something that women in particular do really, really well, we just blowed in between the myriad of roles that we have in our lives. And why would I go to anyone else when I could come to you, somebody who I know. And I love and I love working with. And this is this is what we should be doing as women is supporting each other. So yeah, I think we're just gonna be really fluid and and make it work and it does

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Emma Lovell 52: work. And I love that about the role. I mean, roles. Yeah, I think the problem is with roles and titles and why I try to tell people to stay away from them is because it's like, of course, you have all these roles and titles. And of course you are, you are all of those things. But they're not who you are. Yeah, Mickey who happens to have many roles. And I think where the problem becomes is yes, if you took on that role of trainer that I am a trainer, and I'm a trainer all time, then you might not be able to step into retreat. Attendee

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53: oh my god, if China all the time, I would literally have no friends and I probably be divorced. I my husband does a thing. He won't listen to this. So he won't know I'm talking about him. It's okay. But my husband hasn't been well, I will produce this beautiful meal, you know, healthy, well balanced, and he will eat it. And then like 10 minutes later, he'll be having toast and jam. And I know I'm not alone with husbands who do this. You probably listening at home game. Yes. My husband does that as well. Yeah, the Toasty after dinner, like he's a malnourished little thing that needs more sustenance. And I have coded up him on at once. Now just bear in mind that my husband also has an exercise science degree and a master's degree in nutrition. So he doesn't know. I was sort of, I think, I think I did this. But in my mind's eye, this is what I did that I like, poked him in the tummy and said, Do you really need that sandwich? I don't think I would have done that. But that's, that's how my mind plays out the scenario. And remember, he turned to me through a mouthful of toasted cheese. And he said to me, really, so he says something like, I love living with Nikki. But I really don't want to live with cinci, which is what I can't wait is I don't want to live essentially, I love this Nikki I love and I'm like, okay, back off. It's really, it's so true. And so we all have to be mindful of that. But if you're the CEO of a great big company, guess what? You're not necessarily the CEO of your teenage kids. They do not want you to bring that that part of your personality home. You want to be mom at home. So yeah, we're all we all get good at manipulating. You're not manipulating but moving through those roles. And that's fun of life, isn't it? You know, like basically it Think would matter how important you are your teenagers still think you're a big dork.

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Emma Lovell 55: Currently the apple of my son's is I

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55: think you're a big dog, you remember those chubby hands and they just want to see all the time and have cuddles. It's, it's just so beautiful when they're little.

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Emma Lovell 55: I'm so grateful to have you in my world. Nikkyo Emma,

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55: I'm so grateful to have you in mind. Now, it's funny, because I know you probably know this we may have had this conversation for, but I've known of you as have many others, because obviously, you've got a very high profile. But I've known of you for probably five years or more. And I've always always watched you and thought how lovely you were. And I've always thought I can meet that girl one day i That's I just feel like we would really get on. And so when you when we eventually did kind of meet and started working, it was like it just felt right. So I'm so happy to have you in my world as well. And I think he always will be in my world. It's just

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Emma Lovell 56: just tested me and love calling me in some would

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56: call it stalking but we call it manifesting

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Emma Lovell 56: this and we'll use their own words. Now how can people? I'll put it on the show notes and all that jazz, but how can people find you? And how can they connect with you?

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56: You know what I always feel like the best way is to go to Instagram and just follow us at it since training. For those of you who aren't sure about since it's spelt with a C okay. I NC H since training, and just follow us and get a feel for what we do. And if it seems like you know, I'm the right person for you. I mean, we have this I'm not a one woman band, whether like there's other trains that we are a team. But if you would like to work with us in any way, then just reach out just send me a DM and we'll work out what the best package is for you. We do online spin we do we have sports Cairo we have face to face training, we have remote, like we have so much going on. It's just finding what is best for you depending on what you want to achieve and where you live in the world and all of that jazz. But um, yeah, just just reach out. And you know, and first of all, yeah, Follow Follow us and get a feel for our vibe.

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Emma Lovell 57: A fabulous vibe. You've been amazing. Thank you. And no doubt you will be back at some point.

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57: So I'm sure I think we just we need to like run our own podcast. Keisha, stop

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Emma Lovell 57: this, because you know, I'll just,

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57: it'd be up and

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Emma Lovell 57: work. But I can be like, very influenced.

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57: I know. You mentioned the fun we're going to have in Sri Lanka. Because I'm, and something we haven't talked about today. So important is keeping a sense of fun and all this in life and finding laugh more.

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Emma Lovell 58: Yeah. But hopefully people are listening and laughing and they either think we're lunatics, or that we're lovely. And what No, they

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58: think, lovely. Money. You've got the right answer.

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Emma Lovell 58: Thank you, Nikki. Thank you, Emma. I know I said goodbye. And thank you. But we aren't back because I forgot one very important thing, which is the whole premise of this podcast. And I think I think we've demonstrated it pretty well. But I do want to ask you the question. Nikki, what does living a life you love, right now look like?

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58: Oh, my God, that is a is a really big question. Yeah, I think that the key word there is is love. So to feel like you're living the life you love, I think it is so important to have love in your world. So to feel that you are an important part of the world that you are perhaps fulfilling what you're put on this, God's green earth to do that you matter, that you are loved, that you have a community. And then beyond that. doing the things that set your soul on fire. So for me, it's travel like it is for you, Mr. It's spending time with people I love like, I'm sure for most of our listeners it is as well. It's perhaps being creative, or whatever it is. So I'm having the time to invest in those things. And then of course, to have the resources to allow you to live the life that you want to live. And increasingly for me it is looking more at the spiritual side of my life as well which has only been quite new for me I guess in the last few years, and really finding a deeper meaning to life. And then with my most special relationship with my hubby, ensuring that that is on an even keel and that we are still really connecting and having fun together and can go into old age with children. Now, pretty much adults, I've got a 20 year old and 16 year old, that we're not going to be looking at each other at the dinner table when they're gone, going, who even are you? You know, I don't remember what we used to have fun together. So still making time to connect with him and make sure that relationship is better. And I think that's it.

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Emma Lovell 1: I love it. I love it. And, you know, as I said, I think I think I see you. I think I see that love and the love for what you do and the genuine interest in joy. And yes, I feel like there's a lot of your there's a lot of love in a lot of areas of your life. And it makes you very attractive. And thank

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1: you look, I don't think again, I just have always been like that. But I've become a lot sloppier as I've gotten older and realized that people aren't always around forever. And so ensuring that you do tell people that you love them. And now I tend to send my friends at random tax rolls. So you know, just so you know, I really love you like you're really important in my life. And those little things they really do. They are so important. So I've also got better and I think we all have I see it with my teenagers, you know, they'll hug their friends and love you see that even my son, it's like, Gee, I think we all need to be more like that. We need to let people know how special they are to us because life changes in a heartbeat. So as

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Emma Lovell 1: we're gonna say, I'm gonna say thank you again, and we have this this project, the podcast of believing this time I promise it's done. I do love you. I love you too. Thank you for listening. Lovely one. I hope this has inspired you to dream big and start creating a life you love today. If you love what you're hearing, don't forget to follow and rate on Spotify and rate review and subscribe on iTunes. It helps other awesome people to find this podcast and get motivated and inspired as well. Want to stay connected. Come and join the live a life you love group on Facebook, or connect with me on Instagram. Emma lovell.au, the same as my website. But all the details are in the show notes lovely. I'll see you next episode for more inspiration, motivation and freedom seeking Now go out there and live a life you love