New Mama Movement with Faye Tan

Ep #48 - Faye Tan (EDITED)

Wed, Mar 20, 2024 1: 15PM • 37:14

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00: Do you want to live a life of freedom and adventure? Are you wanting more than the daily grind? Me too. Welcome to the Emma Lovell show, a place where we talk about living a life you love now, I'm your host, Emma Lovell, and my number one value is freedom. I've spent the last 14 years running a business and traveling the world. And now I take my husband and toddler along for the adventure to it's possible and I know you can create a life doing what you truly love as well. This podcast will inspire, motivate and encourage you to go after your dreams to create a life you love until you get now don't wait for a time and or someday in the future. I'll be sharing episodes weekly about how I harmonize business travel and self care. I'll also bring on incredible guests to share their journeys, wins the challenges and how they're creating a life they love. Let's jump in and get dreaming. This is a space for you to manifest a life you love.

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01: Hi lovely welcome to today's episode with the incredible Faye tan from Mama movement phase the mama behind mama movement and she is a purple haired, color loving feminist. Her feminism began at the age of 10 when she created gowns rule, a website she made to unite girls worldwide to celebrate their awesomeness. But fast forward to today and Faye is a mom of two who left her corporate career in January 2020 to pursue her passion project. She is now known as mama movement and her mission is to start a movement for body positivity for moms, so that her daughter and other little girls like her would have a more body positive future. Today, mommy movement is one of Australia's fastest growing activewear labels. A brand that is disrupting the active wear industry with their uniquely colorful and body positive approach to high performance active wear. I had the fortune of meeting Faye at oz mompreneur and I had seen her online and loved everything she's about. She's a rainbow unicorn, bright light that I love to follow. And her gorgeous garments are gorgeous. I was wearing my raincoat but was bit too Rusli so I had to take it off. I've got my eyes on a bunch of tights. And you're gonna love getting to meet Faye. Here she is fated for mother movement.

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02: Welcome to the podcast faith in.

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02: Hi, Emma, how are you? I'm sorry. Go ahead. I'm so happy to have you here. I did have on one of your beautiful mama movement pieces before but it is a raincoat. It's a little bit rustling and I thought it wouldn't be great for the audio. So we've got a photo

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03: proof evidence that I am a fan and a customer. I love you in that raincoat that always brings me so much joy and seeing you traveling all around Europe wearing it was just such a joy because I always feel like I get to travel vicariously through my pieces, my designs. So it's nice. Thank you for doing that for me good.

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03: Like, she's like why do I need to see a video? I love it.

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03: Like when I'm petting the donkey and wearing my rainbow jacket you like

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03: to your content. I know. I mean I've been in now business for three and a half years and I still get so excited every single time someone tags us wearing them. I'm a movement like It still blows my mind. Well, I've got my eyes on some magenta leggings because I do love

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03: it also, as much as I love some of my huge range of leggings that I have. I've just noticed now that I don't have the ones that don't have pockets and the same with dresses if I don't have pockets and sometimes my jacket, like it's not as cold or rainy. But I wear the jacket because I need the pockets in

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04: it. It's just become essentially like once you've had them you can't go back. Where else would you put all your things? We'll hold them.

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04: I know that. Yeah, we're put it down my top it gets.

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04: It's just the top. Looks over here people. Exactly. They tell us in your words a little bit, a little bit about you.

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04: Sure. So my name is Faye, I'm the founder and creative director of mama movement. It's a clothing label that I started three and a half years ago when I left my corporate job so at the time, I was not in fashion.

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04: I was working in a big financial services company doing a job I hated

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05: But I was crying at work almost every day. And just feeling like I needed more from my life and especially if I was going to choose to be spending my time away from my daughter, who at the time was one that I needed to be something I left. And so I started my movement. And three and a half years down the road here we are. I love it. And I met your partner and you're sassy firecracker. She is adorable.

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05: You're actually at the awards. No, it wasn't she. Yeah, yeah, she was yeah, she came with me it was a last minute decision to bring her along with me today was my printer was like she was in Sydney with my whole family was in Sydney with me. But she wasn't ever intended. Like, she was not coming to the wards. Because you know, when I'm at work, I need to be in work zone. But I think throughout that conference, I just saw so many examples of women doing things that they love it with their children around them. And I just thought to myself, like I wanted, I wanted my daughter to have that. And also, I just wanted her to be in a room full of inspiring women celebrating each other's success. And I just thought to myself, I want her to experience that like being in a room full of women, taking goals, doing amazing things in every single area, or industry you could possibly imagine.

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06: And I just want to be part of that. And so she came along with me peace and Katie, let me bring her as last minute addition that even had a little light see her and everything. So it was very special. But that's, you know, your business is called mama movement. So it's a bit be a bit, you know, ironic to have to cut her out of that. And I just think, you know, our kids are part of our lives. And people have different perspectives on this. But I include my son in my content, because he's a big reason why, like, he's what's making me want to do better in business. He's, you know, I'm creating a life for us, you know, like, it's not just about me, so it would feel strange to just be on there and also to cut out such a huge part of my life.

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07: My perspective on having it but also there's such a such a beautiful thing when you get to have your little person there. And I've done speaking gigs. And this is whole big group photo at the end and Finn's in it. Yeah.

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07: He's in the group photo, he was there. Yeah, I mean, as I said, I started this business in a way for my daughter, like I, I just didn't want to keep going to a job I hated and that being the example that she grew up watching her mum, not being brave enough to go and chase her dreams, and instead just choosing the safe path and living a life that she didn't feel fulfilled in. And so, you know, she in a way gave me that bravery to step away from that job that I've been in for 10 years. And I didn't hate it throughout that whole time. But I really just wanted to hate it towards the end. And she gave me that bravery. But I also chose mama movement. Inspired by her, like I was never just about clothing, it was always in why I chose the new mama movement was because it was always about starting a body positive movement. So that little girls like her, would be able to have a more body positive future. And so it was always for her. And so it does feel right for her to always be there with me in a lot of these key moments. And she comes along to a lot of our photoshoots, which I love and participate as a little model itself, which she actually loves. And one day she doesn't want to, of course it will be her right to say she chooses not to be but at the moment, she actually loves them. And she's

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08: like, how are you?

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08: Yeah, she actually loves He loves being a part of it. I don't think she realizes that it's not normal to have lots of photoshoots. And then he doesn't understand that that's not a thing. Not everybody goes and does a photo shoot once every three months.

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09: Yeah, but isn't this cool that like, I think I was like that with my son and just sort of like, look at the life that he's living like

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09: a little person in this business lounge, the airport, you know, just sitting there like you own the place and you know, just out doing cool things and just find going to a hotel, and you're just like, this is just gonna be normal for you. And I think I like that. I like that that's normalized. And that's the well because I was fortunate that my parents took me along to things and took me to dinners or socialize with people from all around the world, which was beautiful, and we love to travel now but also then to you know, to be in situations that were grown up and to hear conversations that were growing up and to see networking firsthand. And so I obviously love coming to events and meeting people like you because

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10: I saw that that's how business was done. And that was really demonstrated by both them. And, you know, also that they went to things by themselves though as well, they did things. And we had babysitters, and we had people come, we didn't go to every single thing, but they didn't, you know, not include us. So, yeah, right. It was just so that it really stood out to me that you did that. And like I said, when running these businesses, you're literally has mama in the title like it just Yeah, yeah, we're having these. You know, we're in that category we're allowed to be in those awards is because we're moms. Yeah, the children who made us the moms not be part of that story. Yeah, exactly. And she is such a big part of the why behind mama movement, that it just always feels right to me still to have her there. Like every, every time we do a big celebration, she's part of it. You know, it's a family run businesses for mums as well. And it's so it's kind of nice. And to be honest, every time we do any big event, like a big photo shoot, we do one every year to celebrate our birthday or anniversary of the business each year. And that usually happens around June, July. And we invite by all of the models that have participated across the year to come back and just do a big like fun body positive birthday photoshoot. And she comes along to every single one of those and she loves them. She's always asking when we're doing the next smaller movement birthday and how old my mom has been standing.

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11: Yeah, so she she just she enjoys doing it. You know, she comes along to markets with me as well. When we do like the finders keepers, a big Stein markets, she often will come in put by for part of the day and sometimes even helped me like handing out flyers or just engaging and giving you the little treat sick kids that might walk past actually, yeah, she's always part of the business and will probably always be I love that. And how did your family feel about you going, you know, from employed? Like, was it kind of an overnight decision? Or is it coming? Like, how was that transition for you, because it's a big change.

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11: It, it was in many ways an overnight decision, in a sense of, I guess the building resentment for the job I was doing then was continuing. But then I just had that big decision, I actually got offered a promotion, which is funny, like we believe, but I put offered a promotion, for more money and more responsibility. And I could not imagine anything worse than continuing to give more of myself to something I just didn't feel aligned with my values anymore. And that was the moment I chose to leave, which

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12: in some ways, some people will look at and go crazy. And especially because that was the 2020, which if you think back to what 2020 was, this was January 2020, COVID, hit in March 2020. So I obviously had no idea what the year was going to have in store for me.

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12: But I also feel really lucky in many ways, because it forced me into going 100% Into all in into my business. I had initially when I left thought I leave, I'll start this business, and then maybe I will go and do part time consulting work in the corporate field to be able to get that income because at the time, I was the higher income earner in the household. And so the idea of not having that money was bit scarier. So we had a young child, we're hoping to have another at some stage, had a mortgage, you know, so all of those things, I felt like I needed a security of being able to have some ongoing income, but then COVID hit so no, no new jobs on the horizon at the time, and I just bought myself all in into my business then. And it grew so quickly. As a result.

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13: Sometimes it like delayed, you know, before, you know before then it appears in a friend that to me today that he's really done with a retainer client, and he's not sure what to do. And once he's like, Well, we need to get someone else before the retainer client goes. But I think the way the universe works sometimes is that you're not going to get that in until there's a space and this place has not been created. And I've had moments where I've looked at my calendar I'm like, why am I not getting clients? Why this income not coming and then I looked at my calendar and like there's no way I couldn't even fit them in if I tried like, I wonder they can't have anything come in because I've just jammed it up so much. So sometimes we do have to have that space and that like sink or swim.

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14: And then the LEAP actually works for us and the net does appear and you know, it works out and you're clearly willing to work and so if it didn't work out then you will find something but But it worked out and it's great and I don't know Is it just me. Maybe just because I've come into your world since around August last year but

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14: I don't know maybe I'm seeing more but hasn't grown again. It feels

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15: Like you're everywhere.

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15: I don't know. I mean, we saw when we launched the business when we saved for you as me, when I launched the business in July 2020.

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15: You know, I launched the business with basically four products on the website, it was one type of legging into different prints and one type of sports bra again to do the same two prints. And that was all I had on the website was for products. For boxes, it wasn't a huge brand, I bought boxes on the floor of my garage, and for products on our website. And I had started building, I guess, an audience leading up to launching. So I'd started kind of sharing all of the behind the scenes, my first samples, the ones that were terrible, the ones that were always there, and then the ones that nailed it. And the excitement I had around that. And I guess like building that audience, when I hit go on my website,

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15: I didn't know what to expect, I did get sales straight away. It wasn't like I sold every single piece right away. But I did end up actually in the end,

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16: selling out of everything in the first month, because what will happen was that first few customers who really believed in my story and the product that I was showcasing on my social media, when they then receive their package and started raving about it on their social, suddenly all of their friends and family started also buying.

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16: And it was at that time really, as I said, we were in, in lockdown in Melbourne for about 50,000 years. And everyone was at home looking, looking for something joyful in their day. And I guess that's what a Mamuka parcel really was. But that was what I wanted them to feel like when they received that there was receiving happy mail. And yeah, so we grew really quickly. Within the first year, we grew from four to 30 on the website. And now I think there's like 100 products on the website. There. So it grew very fast. Like we wrote the E commerce boom, that happened at the time.

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17: Really hard. Like, you know, I just went all in and just, as I said, put everything into the business, but with my then two year old at home, because she couldn't go to daycare.

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17: But I just poured everything into it worked around, you know, her hours. And when she was napping when she went to bed, I was back online pecking orders usually up until midnight. And yeah, put everything to integrate really quickly. And I guess I don't know if it's really grown again since last year, I feel like we're in a very strange time in the economy with the cost of living crisis that everyone is feeling. And so people are a lot more careful with their expenditure. It almost used to be that we couldn't we almost couldn't keep up with how quickly we were selling. It's not quite like that anymore. But we are a much bigger operation now obviously than what we were then and I have

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17: I have staff now as well as it's not just me in the business anymore.

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18: But yeah, it's been it's yeah, we're just having lots of fun still and enjoying ourselves in the journey.

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19: And it is it is very joyful and there's a clear reason why I'm attracted to it for people who aren't watching a video or the podcast or we're both wearing pink and your shirt says is the new black so I've got the memo but I love anything Rainbow Unicorn bright colors so very attracted to everything that you're doing. Were did like was that always kind of a thing that you're going to keep the Collect the color was the color something that you felt was missing or why is the color so because it is very prominent and very vibrant and a lot of athleisure wear wasn't for a while. sportswear but also athleisure wasn't for a long time. Yeah, I mean, remember again I started this this is not about the clothing but it was about trying to build this movement or body positivity and for that term in

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20: had visually on a meet the medium that I chose that time on social media on Instagram.

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20: It needed to be visual, like, I felt like it needed to have women showing up that would stop the scroll on your feed when you saw it because it will be just it will hit you in the face that there was this joyful woman wearing colorful clothing. And that will always be there will be so out of the normal, especially in Melbourne where I am so out of the normal. And that it would not just be one woman, it will be a whole group of them. And they would all have different body shapes and sizes and skin tones and hair colors. And that they will all be wearing color. And I just thought that would be how we grew this movement if it was going to have visual like impact. And also because I think in hindsight, I didn't even realize this at the time. It was only in hindsight that I realized this. But

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20: I've always chosen clothing based on how I'm feeling. And sometimes the clothes that you choose can then impact how you're feeling. And so when I was in that space where I was working in a corporate job that I didn't love,

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21: it was funny that I had found myself towards the end of that 10 year career going from the most colorful person in the workplace, always to like always in black, I was literally head to toe in black clothing as I left that job. And that happens subconsciously, I didn't realize that that happened that I beat from the person who always had these bright colored ridiculous nails. And at least one piece of clothing, there was a colorful,

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21: eye catching piece to this person, not always one black. And that was because of the reflection of how I was feeling at the time. And I was feeling like I wanted to hide.

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21: And I didn't want to be prominent, and I just wanted to not be noticed. And I think that's the opposite of what I want to try to create that mother movement where I want people to feel like they can take up space, they can be seen. And they can be they can celebrate themselves and stand out and feel good about themselves and proud of themselves. And I just feel like it needed to be colorful to carry that message. So it was always colorful right from the beginning. Because I guess of the why behind the clothing. And you know, you are today having bright fluro pink nails, which

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22: you might love language. And I like

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22: to speak with your hands more.

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22: But I don't know, I think as well, there's kind of still that.

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22: Definitely what you're feeling. But also like there is such a, I don't know, a compelling sort of nature when you work in offices. And I've worked for myself forever. But I occasionally do contracts. And I just do like I'm going to the office, I'm gonna wear black like, it's just, and it's like, I never worked in an office. But like, I just know that I think that and that also, when I think of professional, I think black and white. And even for a long time I logo was black and white.

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23: And a friend said to me, like, you're so colorful. And so now we use the color and the imagery, but also use color in the site because I am colorful. But I did also like wearing our rainbow unicorn literally dinosaur leggings. And I was like this thing, it's like you can be colorful and be professional, like I can wear these things and still absolutely be it professional. But there's still such a trend towards I mean, I went to a conference the other day with a colleague and and she walked into the center straightaway, I noticed because we're at this exhibition is so much black, there's so many men

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23: and it's just suits and black and men and it was just like whoa, like it's not the world that we play in anymore. No And it's funny because that was my world right? Like I literally worked in financial services, the average age of the person I was dealing with was about 50 and like a white male, especially because I was one of the youngest managers at the time in the organization and so I was dealing with directors and head ops and the C level suite all the time and so I was just so used to that but I was always the most colorful person in the room until I think I started to lose myself that's when I started to dress a lot in black just don't want it to send out anymore but now you know my world is is so colorful and it just makes me so happy. I actually am happy to be wearing black shorts bike shorts today which is almost funny at my house when I put them on this morning to myself but I'm when I can say this right I'm gonna need to have my period. Women listening you know what that means? Yeah, and as we get older, it's very heavy. And so I just chose to wear black today for safety reasons

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24: I love I like wearing black because it's so different on me. So sometimes it's real elegant sort of shifted, but I have a lot more. I had a

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25: stylish session and she actually said like, you can wear it, but you have to do a lot more. And then when somebody that night, there's this photo that I showed her that I was like, I love this look, I felt really great that night, everything she's like, but it's almost like a costume that you're wearing, like you'd like work because they were putting on a costume to go to work. And so you then you do a lot more with your face. And you have to do a lot more with. So it was a look that I was wearing as opposed to the me.

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25: And so then you know, and look, you're wearing a black shorts, but I can see your sports bra, which is, yeah, I know, it's still very rainbow colored.

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25: I know. I'm okay. Yeah. And it's funny, like the black shorts and the black leggings in our age, like I resisted making them for three years, like we only release our black leggings

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25: around, I think August last year. And so it was just after this V anniversary of our business. And up until that point, I did not make black leggings, which is practically ridiculous for an active label not to have a standard pair of black leggings. But I was so against just what not just that but I kind of thought like you can buy black leggings from anywhere you like you can just go anywhere and buy them. So I didn't understand why people kept asking for them. I'll say I just go anywhere else then like you can get them anyway. But then people kept saying to me, but say they do not fit like your spirit. The leggings do not fit like your leggings fit so yes, I can buy black leggings anywhere, but they're not yours. And so I knew and I gave in and made some black leggings and today I'm wearing my black bike shorts very grateful because I'm on day two of my period and it is not not a fun day. I love this you know and that's I use that as a business product space but with the services as well. Like there's this thing where you sort of go up or somebody else's doing that. So why don't you go and you end up referring on all the time. But if people love you and they love your vibe and they want to support your business, why are we telling them no and sending them somewhere else when we could just you know there's clearly a market demand for it and yeah, and the resistance that you you sort of didn't have this moment you go wait a minute, they're all asking for it Why am I not making this thing for them but why don't I just do the thing that they're asking? Yeah, or somebody else is doing it but they want they want the favors and or the moment movement version or the images Yeah, yeah, exactly. And I have to say that our black leggings feature and in their waistband that is bright pink or bright purple depending on which style you choose on the inside and it says undercover dopamine dresser so I could not just do a black leaving with it just being black obviously no i to inject color into it somehow even it was hidden on the inside

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27: your ad so joyful thing you need and getting your newsletters and it's very dangerous for my credit card. But it's it's lovely. And I really was attracted to the movement. And yeah, to that. Everybody, you know, because I would think sometimes like the whole midriff show, I don't wear it like I would wear a longer top not a crop top in a legging. And there's still times where I don't and that's just my own comfort, or maybe you haven't found the right sort of layout for that. But I love that I love seeing on people and the confidence that you can see in the photos, the confidence that you can see in the women and they're just loving themselves sick. And I love it. I just I think that's that's what it should be. And I resisted buying myself activewear for a while because I had stuff you know, I had old T shirts, I get a lot of given T shirts, I had some shorts that I had felt like I had enough, you know, but it was like this isn't a need. It's a want it but I want it and then when I changed my, you know, active wear to be more colorful. Then I'm like moving on. I want to go for a walk. Now I want to go out I want to wear I hope it's raining so I can wear my rainbow ring.

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28: I want to go out in it. And so it's really inspiring and it is inspiring. That moves us to move as well as Yeah, yeah, exactly. And I think with with the photos as well, that was always very intentional that I wanted in choosing exercise and active wear. I wanted it to be colorful. So because I wanted to spread that message that exercise should be something we do because we love our bodies, and not because we hate them. And for me that was a really big mind shift in my personal journey. You know, I am someone who throughout most of my 20s had an eating disorder and had a really warped relationship with food and with exercise. And so that mind shift around moving my body not as punishment for food that I ate but because I love my body and I want to look after it and I want it to be able to climb mountains well into my 60s 70s 80s 90s Maybe

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29: means I want to look up my body

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30: Yeah,

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30: I'm gonna be

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30: wearing my hundreds to. Yeah. And I guess that's, yeah, that's why, you know, we want it to be colorful. And that's why we want it to look joyful on our website as well that it wasn't all of the serious angry looking models that you sometimes see in the activewear industry wanted to be just women smiling and having a good time. And we don't actually use professional models, we still, which is something we've done from the very beginning of use our community, our actual customers, to model the clothing. And so none of them are professional models, and a lot of them actually arrive on the day of the shoot, like shaking in their boots, they're so scared and nervous, because they've never done this before, we're asking him to basically get into a, you know, shorts and crop combo, and they maybe don't normally wear that to go to the gym anywhere, they would normally put a tank top rotation on top. And so we're and then we're putting a big camera on them and lights and lots of people looking at them. And it can be a lot, but what but it still is today, and you've done so many shoots, we do them every two to three months, it still remains one of my favorite days of the year, every time we do them. Because watching the women come in, and most of them are really nervous at the start, and then seeing them come out of their shell and gain confidence in front of the camera. And as they start to see themselves in the beautiful images we capture of them. It's really special. And it's still it's that moment where I see like my dream coming to life. And I see this bit like visually happening right in front of my eyes. And yeah, it's always a very special moment for me to be able to see that. Well, if you ever need an extra model, I

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31: will bring my little assistant model who loves jumping in my photos, regardless whether I want them or not.

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32: They I can see all of that I feel all of that. And I saw it. I mean, I really knew of you but it was so lovely to connect with you it was mom and hear your story. And it was like I just have to talk to this woman more so. But please tell us what does like you've created this business and you've got you know, Cooter and your family, what does living a life you love look like, right now.

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32: Living a life I love right now means that

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32: I have purpose in the life that I've built for myself, I have a job that, in many ways doesn't feel like a job because it just feels like I'm doing something that I love to do every day. Now, maybe not the bookkeeping part of it, that part is not so fun.

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32: On the whole, like the why we're doing it. And I just get to be surrounded by color, which makes me happy. But also I just get to interact with women every day, who are getting joy from the pieces that I make. And it's either helping them to move more often because they just love wearing active when they're wearing it, they might have to go do another class, or go for a walk.

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33: It just it just brings me so much joy to know that that's the impact that I can have. And it's funny because, you know, when I left my corporate job, as I mentioned, I thought that

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33: I thought that I had to do that because I was

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33: intentionally choosing not to be with my daughter when I was working. You know, my going to work I was choosing to be away from my family. And these days, I love being around my children don't get me wrong, but I also love coming to work so much. And that's the Monday I this anymore, ever, which it makes me feel really good that that tells me that I I have am achieving what I set out to do when I left that job, which was to find a job for myself that I could show up to every day and feel like it's worth it's worth doing. Like it's I'm putting something out there that I can be really proud of.

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34: I love that. I love that. And I think and I love your honesty around that as well. Because if we just say everything's for our kids and all those things, but I feel it too. I I know I'm better for my son for doing my work. I'm better for my son for doing things that light me up and it's better for them to see us in work that we enjoy. Because you know work is a part of life. But you know, choosing work that you enjoy not making it so doesn't have to be hard work. It doesn't have to be tedious work and draining like it can be joyful and fulfilling and purposeful. So I think you're being an amazing role model not only to your

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35: children but to other business owners and to people as well. Yeah, I hope so I hope that my daughter, as she's growing up, she's watching her mom and seeing that her mom is living a life that is just aligned with who she is and her purpose. And I hope that she's proud of that, that she, when she sees that I hope she's proud of me, and that it gives her then the bravery

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35: to not feel like she's got to choose the safe option.

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35: Or choose to stay in a place that's not bringing her joy anymore, that she can feel brave enough to

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35: just take a leap of faith and step out and do what she loves. I just I could wish nothing more for her. That's such a beautiful wish. Now, I think I've said it quite a few times. But just in case, Mama movement. We'll pop it in the show notes. But how can people connect with you or what's the best way to find you? Well, we are always on social media, because that's how we started was always about growing this online. Happy, colorful, joyful community. So find us on Instagram or tic tac tic tock your platform of choice at MAMA movements underscore au or on our website at MAMA movement.com.au. Beautiful. Thank you so much Fay. It's been such a joy to talk to you and I cannot wait to fill my wardrobe with more color. We'd be more than happy to help you out Emma, thanks for having me.

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36: Thank you for listening lovely one. I hope this has inspired you to dream big and start creating a life you love today. If you love what you're hearing, don't forget to follow and rate on Spotify and rate review and subscribe on iTunes. It helps other awesome people to find this podcast and get motivated and inspired as well. Want to stay connected comm and join the live a life you love group on Facebook or connect with me on Instagram. Emma lovell.au The same as my website. But all the details are in the show notes lovely. I'll see you next episode for more inspiration, motivation and freedom seeking Now go out there and live a life you love