Tapping into your intuition with Anastasia Tsikas

Episode # - Anastasia Sikas - EDITED

Wed, Apr 10, 2024 8: 11AM • 56:39

Wed, Apr 10, 2024 8: SUMMARY KEYWORDS

Wed, Apr 10, 2024 8: candle, people, energy, love, clients, space, retreat, feel, working, book, moon, empath, create, talking, years, crystals, anna, sauna, business, vibe

Wed, Apr 10, 2024 8: SPEAKERS

Wed, Apr 10, 2024 8: Emma Lovell

Emma Lovell 00: 01

Emma Lovell 00: Do you want to live a life of freedom and adventure? Are you wanting more than the daily grind? Me too. Welcome to the Emma Lovell show, a place where we talk about living a life you love now, I'm your host, Emma Lovell, and my number one value is freedom. I've spent the last 14 years running a business and traveling the world. And now I take my husband and toddler along for the adventure to it's possible and I know you can create a life doing what you truly love as well. This podcast will inspire, motivate and encourage you to go after your dreams to create a life you love until you get now don't wait for a time and or someday in the future. I'll be sharing episodes weekly about how I harmonize business travel and self care. I'll also bring on incredible guests to share their journeys, wins the challenges and how they're creating a life they love. Let's jump in and get dreaming. This is a space for you to manifest a life you love. I would like to acknowledge and recognize Aboriginal and Torres Strait Islander peoples as the first peoples of this place now known as Australia. I am grateful for the continuing care of the land waterways and skies where I work live. Listen, learn and play. From here on you can bear country and from wherever you are listening. I pay my respects to the elders past and present. Hello lovelies, and welcome to today's episode. I'm so delighted to introduce you to Anastasia, tick us. Anna Stasia is the will I call it Anna. She is the founder of Moon school. And she is my business buddy. We were accountability buddies in the business chicks Business Club. And she has been such an incredible support and force in my life over the past three years. But I just can't wait to share with you and his expertise today and the ways that she's helped me to really, I think lovely conversation and interesting deep dive into what she does but Anastasia Anastasia is the driving force behind Moon school its transition from corporate life to spirituality birthing a brand rooted in Greek heritage. From Empath, Anna to curating self care essentials. Each product reflects a commitment to enriching daily life. Join her as she explores Moon schools blend of mystique and empowerment guiding you on your journey to living the life that you love. And are is. Yeah, just such a special person and I can't wait for you to hear, hear more. And make sure you head to her website Moon school.au to see her incredibly beautiful products. listen in. Welcome to the podcast, Anastasia theaker.

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02: Thank you for having me here. Mom, this is really cool. My first one kind of excited to be doing this. I had it on my bucket list for this year. And then it just happened really quickly. Yes, manifesting say

Emma Lovell 03: 12

Emma Lovell 03: manifesting we love you dream it, you can do it but love having people on for the first time. It's always very exciting. And I know that you'll share it far and wide, which is also lovely. But yes, your story needs to be heard. So let's start with a little bit about who are you

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03: will go at this stage of my life. I'm lots of things I would say, which I'm pretty happy with. I have the flexibility to do a lot of things. More importantly, I mean, my own business where I finally use my natural skills. I'm highly intuitive. I'm an empath. I'm a creative, I love making things I love talking to people as you would know. And connecting, uh, spent in the past look, I spent over 30 years in the corporate world, mainly in the travel industry and it working for global companies. So I get it being under the stress and the pump. I'm quite grateful for the network of people I've come across over the years. Then I got to a stage where I was also part of a side family business with my husband and his business grew. So I had to let go of working in the corporate field, which was I was more than ready to step away from and what had happened because I wasn't already sort of doing readings for people back then. I just created a side business what happened to be called Empath, Anna back then, which is when around the time I met you through business checks and things of All, you know, from client requests, and I would never imagine to be what it is now rebranded under a brand called Moon school. Clients were asking me for help for products and tools that they could use. I had someone pisser me in and make them cancel candles. Sorry. And that horrified me because I'm going, how do I even begin? But here I am now with a whole collection. It's evolved over the last. I think it's been five years. Yeah, it's coming to five years now. And it's, it's been a such a good journey. I've done a couple of pop up shops. And yeah, I didn't think I could do it. Do you know, like, after working a corporate and you've got set hours, and then I wasn't there anymore, and I thought, How am I going to do a sharp it can meet myself. But sometimes you set yourself a challenge. And I did it. When I do it again at the moment. No. So yeah, and here, I am now just creating something more in depth, and in more focus to help clients with things that they can do for themselves. So well,

Emma Lovell 06: 19

Emma Lovell 06: I'm your clients on two fronts. I thought when you were saying that pestering us like was it, someone pestering you to make them custom candles for their retreat?

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06: I know that was waiting for you trust me.

Emma Lovell 06: 33

Emma Lovell 06: But yes, and I'm have your beautiful candles, I love to purchasing them for myself. And now they're the most beautiful gifts that I give not only my clients on my retreats, but I sometimes give them as gift to people to give them a little sort of, I don't know, thank you. And this is my message of rest and receive. So that's on the candles, and the scent is custom to us. And the jars are rainbow, magical, beautiful, because of course, that's what I would have. And I had them in the store. And I was like, Did you just get those because you knew I was coming in? And I'd have to buy it. I think well, of course I have to buy it. Rainbow and it's reflective. And it's beautiful and amazing. So that was my favorite one, I think meditates.

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07: Yeah, it was being it was very you. It was interesting, you know what it was about making something different. I make them I started designing them. And a lot of the original candles were inspired by real people what they were going on in their life. And I put crystals on the top of them. So working with the vibe of the stones to with the fragrances to the down to the colors of the jars to create more than just an average candle. And that's been so good because some people can use them as a tool with setting intentions, and then amplifies the intention of your own power. Otherwise, the other end of was just home decor people were buying them because they look good, or they should do unto something

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Emma Lovell 08: giant once look amazing. Yeah, it's such a showstopper. I think I'm too fickle, and I'd probably get sick of the scent. Like I need a new one. But it's like big events. And, and yes, I remember it being in the shop. And I said, I was like I should get this one. Because it's space clearing and I need that because of that. And you're like you don't need that. Like, but it says basically like you don't need that right now. And it was so nice. And I chose my words harmony one year and you had a candle called Harmony. So I had that and I'm actually I'm writing my book at the moment so I'm gonna have to have to pick me a candle that can be my book writing because I did have a manifesting candle for the sale of my house and then the candle stopped working not your one of yours. I was given one as I got into champagne bottle. This will be a good one for celebration of the manifesting sale. And then the candle broke. Was it didn't yet wick wasn't enough. And anyway, obviously not not one of yours. So that was the problem first place, but i You've ruined me because I just did quality and they so beautiful. And they have so much meaning that I just if I get given just a candle now I'm like yeah, so I just think and you you actually when we were early on in our friendship and business connection, you shared me I was one of your guinea pigs because yes, travel. So you gave me the one that you were like, I feel like this is a European summer. Yeah.

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09: And that was inspired during because that year I was supposed to go to Europe and that's when COVID started. Yeah. So there was a whole collection that came out over that 18 month period that was focused on that help people either create an Ambien It's or to trust the process because things are out of your control a lot of the times and it's about pulling yourself back. And going right, there are things that I can't control outside my space. But what I can control is within my space, which is yourself, that includes your emotions, your own intuition, because everybody has access to, it's just that we don't always use it. Your own nourishment and growth. And that's when things that are out so you control a bit or managed. They don't trigger you as badly. Basically, when you pull your energy back into yourself and reclaim things that have been dispersed way too much. And people are very, especially women, female business owners, I find they put a lot of energy out. And they don't forget to put some energy back in. So you're running on empty. And you and I both know that journey. We've been through

Emma Lovell 11: 01

Emma Lovell 11: that journey. And you've definitely supported me on that journey. And I had a I did actually a shout out to you last year and a couple other ladies who I've been working with because, yeah, February, March, March, I think it was I was broken, my energy was shot, like, and the real place that that showed up was, you know, I didn't even want to go to the park with Finn. And I didn't have the energy to like, watch him play, but it wasn't able to play with him. And I just made the decision to start working on it. And it was the combination of seeing you seeing a naturopath and my psychologist, monitor that can easily just like it was like a real team effort. And then I started working with the PT virtual PT as well. And it did take it takes time. But it was like that decision and then coming at it from all areas and I think the shadow I was actually sitting in a sauna about a house terrible life, but gotta get noticed, because it was, it's always that thing too. It's like, do you think it takes a lot of time to do all these things, but it does, if I was like, I have to pay for the sauna. And I have to go over there when I realized I had access to a sauna here at the house. But my awareness was open to it, I can go in there for 10 minutes, 10 minutes, just to like, have 10 minutes, you know, like,

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12: it's it's quite, that's awesome that you point that out, because that is so beneficial. Even if it's a couple of minutes, the sauna obviously, because of the actions involved, you know, get in there and do stuff. Even if it's five minutes to start with. And I never push things like meditation on people, especially when they've never done it. It doesn't have to be like that specific activity or non activity. It's, it can be other things that nourish you. And the funny thing is, and with clients, one of the main questions I ask when I see their energy so drained is what do you do for fun. And the first thing people come up with their either stunt and can't think what they do for fun for themselves. Or it's always about being with groups of other people. A lot of people have come to a stage where they're not comfortable with themselves. But the more comfortable you are for doing something for yourself, I'm not talking about an egotistical way, but from a self nourishing way. It has so many benefits, really gaining clarity, you become more grounded, you can manage busyness a lot better, but also you can start to enjoy the good things. Because I noticed when people are in a good space, their head is somewhere else. So it's bringing that awareness back to where they're at to enjoy the company or enjoy an activity that nourishes them. And then you have more energy. Yeah, and it's social resilience. Like

Emma Lovell 14: 04

Emma Lovell 14: it is like you know having like lighting the candle in the morning or and doing my journal it's like if that's all I got 510 minutes that but like it is the habit stacking to have like having that thing correlated as why people have meditation corners or, or whatever or you like said it's the act of going to the sauna. And if I wasn't doing it, sometimes we try to do things at home. I've just started doing Pilates again and it was like because I do have the gym here. So if it's you know, even I have the gym here, or Yeah, I can do workouts at home but actually having a place to go to at a set time. So I started Pilates again because it's like I need that structure and like to go there and to do the thing and to give myself that time. It you know having things around it the drive there as part of it that go into Cloud looking as part of it, you know, the locking it in as opposed to trying to do it or We'll hear so sometimes that helps having accountability helps, and you've been absolutely accountability for me. Yeah, you

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15: know what else I find really a found really rewarding the last couple of years working with clients or with recommending products, like the you know the candles, the incense blends, because I've started to play a lot with incense blends, I brought a lot of really handmade beautiful incense from Greece last year. And you know how I said, when someone does something from themselves, it's more empowering, and often devotee, it has a better effect than someone else, just doing it for you, when it comes to your space, is encouraging clients to create the ambience in their space. If they're uncomfortable doing it for themselves, then do it for your room for your office for your workspace with your living space your bedroom, and teaching people to cleanse and clear, you know, the energy in a space like, okay, there's a big who are about a lot of people about smart sage smudge sticks, some people are against it, some people are for it, some people don't understand it. So I used to have a lot of clients come into the store, or if I was doing a market, saying Do you have sage, I don't have necessarily the smudge sticks. I find them very strong, and very bitter. And not everybody likes the feel of it. And they don't know always know how to use it properly. So I've created blends with incense and herbs and people to be creative to put things together and I'd go go home instructions, set your space with intention again. Because when you clear your space, you got to be careful what's going through your head. Because that has a lot of power that people don't realize. So if you're stressing or you're angry, or you've got a deadline, and you're focusing on that when you're setting your space or lighting a candle or clearing, you're just amplifying that vibe. So having people come back and go, Oh my God, what a difference setting and cleansing and clearing my space. With you know, they might already have some essential oils, or they at home that they're burning, or setting a little wish candle, you know, to focus because it's about mindfulness at the end of the day. And I've noticed even with myself, the more I was doing it when I was working seven days a week and the last pop up shop, years tried, but I was able to get through it because I was constantly cleansing, clearing, grounding, and using simple tools and still trying to fit in the font for ourselves.

Emma Lovell 17: 50

Emma Lovell 17: I mean, everyone's got different things. Absolutely. Oh, you know, like that candle. I said, you know, the European us EU is is transporting and it was like yes, I'm walking through and this citrus for a while, like I think you had and it was like, Yes, I get this. And then I'm finding I've got a body wash at the moment that Matt got me and it's sleepy one. And so then I can't use it in the dark this morning. I'm like I love the smell, but I can't be sleepy. I'm gonna go do a podcast. So they also have like an energized one. And I'm like, a zesty one. And unlike a KTM, I've got to go get it because then I have my invigorating, like even the word invigorating. And like, I'll give it to me, like, I'll take anything that's going to help. But then it's like, it isn't setting the tone. I use that body wash at night. And I had a cream which I've misplaced obviously doing all the wonderful things to put the sleep cream on at night and even as the it just really does. set the tone and go. We're gonna go to sleep now. Yeah,

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18: it's natural. If you think about it to me ritual that you're doing. Yeah, you're taking the time out for yourself.

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Emma Lovell 18: I certainly want to build it before I want to come back to how we met because we met like this. Yes, we did three years ago. And yeah, it is just incredible honor to hear the things that you talked about. And we had to write letters to our future self, which will be fun to go and dig those out. Because I have now done it every year. And you know where you were at because he was so much in you wanted to do this. And I've learned you evolve because you wanted to do and you had it, but it was very much. I think when you came in you were quite like conflicted because you were like, What do I apply business club to because you were so much in your husband's business as well. That you know you had this you know Empath, Anna and so it's just the way that it's turned like that's in three years. No,

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19: that's why I said the journeys to evolve the law. You know, get people saying why moon school, like I have to confess that I have I'm told many people this moon school came quite strongly in a vision, empathy. And I was always temporary, because I couldn't think of a business name that suited what I was doing. And Moon school had a lot to do with a lot of clients who were evolving and learning. And getting more in touch with themselves. I'm not just talking about general emotions, but the moon does influence our emotions. It has your inner goddess, be it male or female, or wherever you identify yourself. And nourishing that, and the more awareness around it. So it's been quite fun and very interesting, I have to tell you a quick story on my first big, big I did Mind Body Spirit festival a few years ago, and I was near we befriended a quite reputable witch elder who was near us. And the back then my branding was very different. I had the sun as part of my branding, and she pulled me aside and she said, she goes your you need to reflect your branding. She goes, the sun is so masculine, so strong, she goes, things are changing, she goes, You need to soften what you offer and who you are, because it doesn't match. Tara lab would love this conversation. And I went up, okay. And that made me start to think that connection of, of what the people like clients like yourself and other we're after. And I did rebrand Empath, and I back then the imaging to the moon to soften because even in a corporate world, things are softening. We're standing up for a lot of things that were unspoken before, this tough image is shifting. Yeah, before changed it and moved it across to moon school. And it's so awesome seeing, like, even yourself with what you're doing. And the retreats and the learning, the more intimate, bespoke boutique events, even larger corporations engaging in that, which is more innovative, I feel. It's just so good to and

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Emma Lovell 22: you're contributing to that and you're opening up and I think I think there's been a great shift away from like, there was like, woowoo. And yes, and now there's people who might still say woowoo, and my husband calls it witchcraft. So like, she keeps me sane. Other people keep me sane. And now he's loves candles. So I'm like, there's little anchors to like, it just he says the word manifesting. Now. It's awesome that like, you know, it's like you don't have like, it doesn't have to be you like into it or not. It's like, understanding and it's from a science perspective, you know, just go back to my husband like on the science perspective, it's like the moon affects the tide. The moon affects the way nature moves. How could that not have an impact? The weather? It doesn't literally has the barometric pressure, like if there's a storm that you feel heavier like it, when it clears, you feel lighter? Absolutely.

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23: Look, the body has a lot of water in it. So we get influenced, and things go through stages, exactly how the moon does the personal beat relationships, be your business, speak your health. If there wasn't a stage or a shift, then you wouldn't be aware of anything. And that's I think this is where people are starting to the people who have that would decide to ignore all of that struggling, and they're going to struggle more. I see almost like a split, and then people who are trying to adjust to it to understand it to go. It feels right. But I don't know how but I'll just go with it. And I'll work it out what works for me. And that's where growth is coming. And which is so, so so good. Soon, that's where I'm at. That's where you're at, as well.

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Emma Lovell 24: You go back to her like you do you go back to the elders, you go back to the Wiser you go back to these ancient cultures, which you know, you're Greek and the the ancient Greeks, you know, Celtic's? They had, they had connection to nature they had, they didn't have anything else to go by. I mean, they did build some great technology and things like that. But for the time that they had, like nature was the thing and it's like, I don't know if they they built that civilization and then just gone so far away from it, and then it's so divisive. It's either yet you're like nature running off. I don't know, hippie dippie or you're like corporate. Why can't I just light a candle so that I can kick ass in my business? Journal a little bit in the morning so that I happen clarity to be there for my clients. Like, it could be that simple. Yes.

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25: And it is. It's not complicated. Look, most of my clients are professionals. They're not your niche woowoo stereotypical people that it used to be this sort of industry is changing, changing for the better, thank God. And the old to stereotypical is not working. It's just not surviving, and it's dwindling out. And that's where some people are not grasping. And that's okay. That's just a journey of ultimate, isn't it?

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Emma Lovell 25: Yeah. What and I love you know, I've got in my office, some candles at Kent. I've got a candles, many a candle. But I've got crystals, some of which I was given from another thing, but one of them I bought from you, and I love it. My son Finn comes in, even as a toddler, and he comes to pick up the crystals. And I'm always like, they have to stay there. They have to live there just because I'm like, don't put it in your mouth. Keep them there. And then he was like holding them. And just excited. And then I said, clapper put it to your heart said hold it to your heart. He picked up every crystal, he held it to his heart. And he held the other crystal and put it to his heart and little kids love crystal, I love you.

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26: You're amazing. Look when I did my first Christmas market few years ago. Oh god, yeah. Quite a few years ago, I dragged my husband with me one day because I needed help. And I had boxes of little crystals for kids like your son, you know, around that age up until about 10. House was going to have all of these dark crystals and then also there for the boys. Because what what do you mean, I suggest you wait and see. And when you know, you see the grandparents coming up the moms and the dads because the boys just the young boys that were my best customers back then were gravitating to the stones, they roll their eyes big and they're excited. And you can you know, that's, that's they're more open to it. And they feel energy and some of the even when I had the shops you get the parents coming in and buying stones for their kids that they loved it the head of collection. I even had some mums buy them both candles and crystals for kids doing Senior High School during their exam period. Just to help them Oh, yeah, I had it was so cool. They would just give their kids or nieces and nephew or grandparent for for the teenager to you know, just to help with that vibe or to have something tactile in their hand. Yeah. And that that, again is a wonderful moment. You know, seeing Finn doing that holding it to his heart because he's in that space. He's not thinking about anything else. It's not. He's just doing there and connecting. And when you're grounded, playing with the stones definitely can ground you. Depending which stones you have is a healthy thing on an energy level. Hey,

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Emma Lovell 28: lovely. I want to open the doors to incredible opportunities for you on an all inclusive luxury retreat exclusively for people who are ready to live a life they love. I invite you to join me for five inspiring nights in sensational SriLanka for the rest and receive retreat, hosted from second to seventh of November 2024. by yours truly, Emma Lovell. I've asked you to disconnect your senses and immerse in this exotic culture while you reconnect with yourself. You get to share this luxurious experience with 12 incredible people while forming connections that last a lifetime. I really cannot undersell overestimate this incredible retreat and the magic of going to a place to give yourself space and time. I want to share it with you. And if you are interested, then please head to my website. Emma lovell.au/srilanka Retreat. I'd love to see you there. And I'm happy to chat. If you have any questions whatsoever. Please take this opportunity to come along and join me in stunning Sri Lanka. I love it. And you've helped me so much and just having that new perspective and having a different way to look at things has been so amazing. But yes, as we talked about your your branding journey and another woman that we met through there, Tara Ladd, who you've mentioned and you going on that path as well and finding you know, and it's like the irony of us so intuitive and connected but then you got to do it on yourself right? And then big difference find what but it's not also just about you is it's about what feels right for you so that you can broadcast it? But it's also then what's connecting to your like to your audience. But I was just thinking before I was like, Oh, I really want we we've said, we might do like a workshop, like because we both love manifesting, we might talk one day. And then I remembered that I called you the other day and said, I'm basically cheating on you. And I'm sorry. Don't leave me. Because I promised I would go to Greece with Anna and I said she would be my first. So I've taken her podcast, but I'm gonna go to Greece on a cruise. And I said, it's an okay thing, because it's my little taste tester. And it's also back, and I'm doing it properly. And I'm committing and bowing here, and we don't know exactly when it will be. But we are running a retreat in grief, it's happening.

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30: Yeah, Greece has a totally like, I know, Europe, in general has a different vibe, but some locations in Greece, because again, because of that ancient energy. A bit like how Sedona is in America, where you have the, you know, the vortex sort of energy, there are part degrees, that it's just untapped, and very magical. And can be very healing. So when you have the, again, your surroundings, you have that and you create retreat, people can really benefit from it. The fifth

Emma Lovell 31: 22

Emma Lovell 31: base does the heavy lifting. It's what I've said, and there's a space that I had books, and it got changed. So it was kangaroo Valley last year, and it got the road close, there was a fire and flood and because of all the fires and the floods, that they had to fix the road and these poor people, their venue got cut off. And then just the other day, I was thinking I really want to reach Halak, when am I going to be to have that one again. And they posted on socials, and they said that open again, I was like, February 2025, we are going there. Because the energy in that, like I was like, I just need to get people there. Like, it was something exceptional. And I was devastated when it moved. And I was sad for them. But it wasn't like angry or anything. It was just like, because I've gone there and I felt it. And I was like, the space is the space is transformative. And I just needed to get people into the space. That's what I'm teaching with retreats, it's like, get them to the get the right people in the right place at the right time. Don't need to then go and make this itinerary or this program that's like, give them in teach them and throw things at them. Like, let let this you know the space. Just give it time you're like, I'll see you in six months, like but I need to see you now and you like well see when I say

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32: it's the space plays a big role, like even an office space. You know, if you can't move and you're stuck where you are, then tweak it, add something to it to bring that energy and it can make a huge difference on how people feel and open for learning. Again, I can't I don't know the word growth keeps on coming up in our conversation today. But yeah, it's an empowerment. Because that's what you do. That's what you specialize in. And that's what I try to do. But offering things is a power. So that person can walk away and take two steps forward. Okay, they might take one step back because of free will. But they still do taking steps forward.

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Emma Lovell 33: When that's it that I've had this transformation in the transaction. So even from the moment that you commit to the thing, you book the session, or you book the retreat, or you say you're going to do it, the transformations already happened to like, nothing is happening. You don't do the thing. And then what I find as well is like those seeds that you plant or the reminders or the little notes that are there just to say a line that you know, it comes back and it ties I get lonely. Okay, and you still do the thing be like ah, yeah, that's probably where my head's running away from my body and I'm only my head. Yeah, I feel that I get that.

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34: Yeah, the narrative. It's exactly like when you booked whenever you want to book a trip, you and I love traveling, you know it's in our blood we must have been born with it for sure. The way we we do our thing is when someone books from the first time excitement already starts, the energy is already building up for for you know, the research that you do the commitment, you make the money you hand over, you know, the vibe is already there before you've even stepped foot to your destination.

Emma Lovell 34: 48

Emma Lovell 34: And that was the hard thing with this moment. Right, the anticipation and that we didn't we lost a lot of hope and that sense of anticipation and when that was sort of taken Going away, take it away taken away. No other ways to find it. I loved exploring my local area. I loved being engaged in that. So I took that lens instead. But when it all came back, you're like, Oh, I missed this and that not having that feeling of is this going to be taken away from me? Yeah, that the follow through of getting the whole process as opposed to the bait, you know, sometimes like my brother, they just plan trips that, you know, they said that's like the date night just planned dream trips that are ridiculous. And they may never go on. But that even that part is fun, the daydreaming and the planning and the what if

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35: Oh, daydreaming is also what why do people like? I asked, sometimes Klein has said it comes up, I'm gonna go allow yourself to daydream, like, I I daydream and I've had people even my family members going, Are you serious? Are you really going to do that? It's not gonna happen, but it does happen. Maybe I have a lot of stumbles along the way. And it comes up slightly different. I think we all need to fine tune what I'm asking for. But it's the emotion behind is what when you daydream, focus on what the emotion is that comes up that you're after? And then the universe provides? If not that, something better, and you trust, you're gonna let it go? How does the people battle with is the how, how am I going to do this? So I can Okay, I don't have those answers right now. But it will work somewhere along the line for me to get there. Well,

Emma Lovell 36: 33

Emma Lovell 36: this is a book I'm reading at the moment. I think you'd love it. I read another one of their books first. 10x is better than 2x. So going 10 times is is 10x. Easiest, sorry, and better than going to x. It's great. But their first book together was who not how? It's fine. Who? Not how and obviously, as a queen of networking, I'm like done. But like you are one of my whose you you like I said the people who helped me with my energy, you are one of my Who's Who do I go to when I need to reconnect my intuition? Who do I go to and I need my amazing gifts for my retreats. Like it's easy. Now. It's effortless. Now, I never your products were the first thing I ever customized. And I we were talking off there, I'm wearing a shirt that says lovely or lovely from the musical. And it might feel sad, but I wanted to have t shirts or something like that. And then we did the candles together. And I was like, Oh my gosh, I have like custom products like I've branded that isn't my brand or you know, my like the the labels are literally made for me and my services. And you made that possible. And so yes, sometimes it sort of doesn't have to look, the way you think it was

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37: a nice feeling the excitement around it.

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Emma Lovell 37: Yeah, it's been amazing. And I just was like, it was so much more possible than I thought I was like, Oh, I've got to how do I how do I how do I get it? Where I go to the printer, daddy do that. And then it was just like, oh, I want candles from Anna with my branding on them. Like, you can do it. She'll do all that for me. So you're my who? And I think it's it's like, yes, the WHO not how, obviously do work, but like you're like, and for me, it's been stepping into that director, the creator, the visionary, the CEO, the founder role, as opposed to the implementer and the doer, and also acknowledging when you're not the best at things. And we obviously both have a who in entire lead for brand Island, graphic design and visual design. And you're like, Well, who I don't know how I'm gonna lay this thing out. I don't know how this thing should look, I'll talk to Tara like, It just shifts so much when you find the who and and also what a gift to go. She's better than me. She's better at it than me. Like, you're better at this than me. Like, why would I try and figure all this out by myself. When you know when you have skills that I could

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38: have some look as in as an intrapreneur that we have so much ideas and things we're going to do I got to do this and do that, especially when you're either just alone person or a very small team. And we forget that there is a who that we can reach out to and working with talking I still you know having you as a friend and a business connection, that I always have your voice in the back of my head going okay what I'm gonna say about these personal branding and how I present myself, I have you on my shoulder even though I haven't worked with you directly, you're there. And then on the other shoulder I've had Tara because I had too many ideas and so much creativity and I've got to do this I've got to do that that have been a really good network of people around you helps for Fine tune and have a better clarity and focus. And just remove a lot of the noise where I've got, I don't have to do that, I'll find somebody else to do it. Or no, you know, that's not for my client, I might want it for me, but doesn't work for my client, I don't need to do that. So it's just that filter that narrows down. And it's a natural,

Emma Lovell 40: 21

Emma Lovell 40: and it's the ego sciences, nobody, like, you know, like, because you've got all these ideas, all these possibilities, and I love that the world is our oyster. But that can be very, you know, when people lose their job, it's like, you could do anything, and they're like, Ah, I can't do anything. It's actually sometimes going to the no first like, the process of elimination. Okay, that's not going to work. That's not right for me did it? Okay, well, then left with these two options, or this one option is actually more beneficial. I don't give people 10 choices of dinner you give them to, you want pizza, or you want chicken. It's much easier. And you know, other people can help us through that. But I just wanted to ask you, for people who don't understand, and honestly, yeah, it wasn't until I met you. I felt like it was the right person. And then that's what I'm finding that I love tapping into my intuition on that. And I've started working with a book coach, and it's like, I met multiple book coaches. And then when I met her, I was like, this is the right person to bring this book into the world. But I hadn't. So I would say, well, one of your skill sets is psychic, if in a classic way that we would understand it. And I'd never wanted to sort of curious but not for me. And then when I met you, I felt open to it. So for someone who doesn't have never stepped into that sort of space, like what's, what's an experience with you like,

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41: um, look, or psychic readers are different. With me, I tend to focus on what is for the highest good for this person today. And making sure very clear channel for the messages that help. Focus will bring up what's going on in that person's life now for clarity, or to release an energy that they're hot, and to diffuse. Anything that's high energy, or anything that's low energy, just to neutralize that and to bring clarity, nine times out of 10, when people have a session with me, they already have sort of ideas, like what was said earlier about, you got a lot going on your head, that narrative is overwhelming. And it's bringing clarity, they already sort of know, but it's making clear a choice or option, narrowing it down to if you do this, this could unfold if you take it this way that neither are wrong. And still empowering the person to trust themselves to make the better decisions. Yes, there are different readers that are very predictive, very direct. I always tell clients even when they want to book in with me, you got to listen to your gut. If it doesn't feel right, having a session with myself or another reader. Don't do it. Yeah, if you feel comfortable, like you said, You've crossed paths with someone and when you came across, you felt I could hold a safe space for you to explore that. And that's what I love. And that's how I was with the shops. I had a lot of people come in. In both shops that I've had and said that people have come to the front counter I've got we never come into shops like this. What have you done that's different. And we don't normally like this, but it feels different. Say the word it feels guilt. It feels safe. I for myself, I tend to channel I take notes. I don't always have to use a tool because people say you are tarot reader. No, I'm not. I have no idea how to read tarot cards. I have a collection of them because I love the colors and the artwork, but I don't read them. I don't use them. I you if I use cards, I use playing cards and normal bread French bridge deck that I've got. Or I don't use them at all. It just depends on on how strong the guides are that day. With the messages that come through. When I'm at the show, when I was at the shop, I would just give free on the spot messages when they'd come through there. They're almost fun because there's no expectation or catch the client if I used to get someone upset coming in and I needed to ground them before they left the shop because you have a almost like on the what's the word sort of thing hang on a sec. I can't let them exit the way that they are. Let me just calm their energy down before they leave. That's the other thing is trying to teach in the session. Sometimes when someone comes in they'd too out of their body too much in their head, or just taking them through a mindful exercise to get them back into their body and more grounded, and they. So they can just be themselves before they go out. Again, that doesn't always happen. I do warn people, if they go too big festivals for readings, I'd rather they not do that. If you're a sensitive soul, or creative, or you feel the world too much, don't do it. Because then you're open your energy to too many other people's energy. If you have readings in those sort of environments, I might get backlash. People who may say that, but even myself when I used to do big events, I never read them. Because it wasn't, I don't find them as a safe space. There's one thing I recommend to people. Word of mouth of someone recommend someone and do one on one. Yeah, be a good reader doesn't need to be in front of you. Personally, zoom. works perfectly well.

Emma Lovell 46: 00

Emma Lovell 46: Every like, do an hour ish, and then I'll be there for three hours. Yeah, and I love that. Because yeah, absolutely. You provide the space. But also, I think people always thought that I did, too. I think that often the thought is that you're going to predict the future. And you gotta tell me something horrible. I love the way that you approach it in that it is a it's sort of a take it or leave it message. We've only ever given me a couple of warnings, if you will. Otherwise, it's like you said it's what's the next right thing? What's the next best thing and it's been a great process for me to let go. Because I with my psychologist or a counselor, I go with an agenda and my psychologist, hilarious. She tells her clients like, so what's the agenda, and I was like, I gotta get through these. You don't talk about one thing for an hour. And you're like, I had other things I needed to cover. But like with my more energetic people like Kinesiologist and with you have learned to like, like, what will come up will need to come up, like what will come out or need to come out what I think is the problem, or what the thing that I'm stuck on is actually not the thing that's, you know, I just really let go. And I'd have never been lucky today. We didn't know what you're talking about. I don't have one question for you. But we didn't know we talked about and I knew it'd be fantastic. I love frost and

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47: getting in here I've just talked to because a lot of people ask me, especially people who have never had it reading before is what if something bad comes up? Okay, I don't believe about it's bad or tragic, I believe that we have challenges. And depending where we are within ourselves, how we can cope with those challenges to get over the speed humps. The more going back to what we said earlier, the more you self nourish yourself, the easier it is to get through those challenges. They still there, we still have to get through them. But we get through them a lot quicker and less triggered.

Emma Lovell 47: 50

Emma Lovell 47: Well, and that's, you know, I would fully like you brought up something. And what I thought it was going to be the warning because it was not this is going to happen. It was your you need to protect your energy, something's going to happen. It's going to be around this around a male family member. And it turned out, I then had a fight with my brother. And I was like, Well, that was it. Anna, okay, we're gonna have a difficult few years because we had a fight. And it was difficult time in our lives with young children. And that's fine. Okay, I just have to accept that we need some space. And so that's protecting myself. And sadly, just probably a month later. No, I think even to start that conversation. Yeah, within weeks, I found out that my nephew was very ill. And now he has a belief here that he is has a terminal illness. And I was like, Oh, this is a difficult few years. And the protecting my energy wasn't about staying away from him. No, it was about building up my energy so that I had the capacity to cope. And yeah, the two still be okay. And like I said, it took us still a few more months to go. Oh, yeah, that energy thing. And it was like this has to become the number one priority and it needs everything thrown at it because otherwise I'm not functioning. Yeah.

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49: The thing is, you still can be compassionate towards those things. It's protecting your energy when you're a giver, you your I call you my cheerleader, and a lot of other people can as well. And when people like yourself and myself become too much cheerleaders, we become depleted. And then we're useless to everybody. So protecting your energy is nourishing. Do your little things that help ground you do your little 10 minute sauna, light your candle, read a book, disconnecting the world because then you can be there. In your example you can be there for your brother you can be there for and if and when you have time with them. You're there holy as Emma you're not have COPD or fully cooked to deplete it, and then you walk away even more. It's like give, give, give, but you're not replenishing. So this is where I try to encourage people to protect their energy but not create a war, we've disconnected, there's a difference,

Emma Lovell 50: 15

Emma Lovell 50: the less that you're learning the lesson. Now I'm gonna put my agenda hit back on. And I'm going to give us two more things that I have to have with you that I really want to cover. One. What does living a life you love, right now look like?

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50: Being me, I had this conversation recently with a friend of mine who's a healer. It's just so good living in LA feel like this being new and being authentic. I'm loving it and having conversations. And if people don't like it, that's okay. You know, I'm accepting the space where I'm in and connecting with people like yourself a lot more. And embracing things with fresh eyes, always with fresh eyes. That's the part thing that I'm absolutely loving at the moment. Yeah, and saying no, when it doesn't feel right.

Emma Lovell 51: 09

Emma Lovell 51: Yes. Okay. So liberating. So and I'm going to put you on the spot. And I was thinking before, you don't have to answer but let's try. For my book, I'm gonna buy a candle, I'm gonna jump off here, I'm gonna buy a candle. What would you suggest? For my book reading time?

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51: The first thing that comes up is transformation. Because your book is, is so much about transformation, for others, and for what you do, and for yourself? I don't know. It's a combination of everything. The transformation candle is a bit smoky and musky, which normally would not be you

Emma Lovell 52: 02

Emma Lovell 52: don't say sanctuary, because I think of Joe wise. And I'm like, candle is an incredible candle. I'm like, it's not for me. No, my but you know,

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52: I've gotten another one that's called Clarity, which is creamy base, which is more about focusing, but I don't get that connection. Because you're already very focused your people like yourself, when they're doing something they love and being so passionate about, you're already in your float, you don't need that extra. And I'm recommending transformation because you're transforming. You're, you know, you've had this book thing on your, in your energy for such a long time, and it's coming to fruition, but at the same time, you're transforming in general, your life, your business, your family, look, everything's happening so much quicker than you sort of thought, but look at all the work you've done. Yeah, that now it's speeding up. So you're going Oh, hang on a second, I need to slow down a little bit. But you're not you're just going with your in your flow. So

Emma Lovell 53: 05

Emma Lovell 53: this podcast into my own live session, you can invoice but I do love the I love seeing people in their element and seeing them you in your skill set. But also obviously I've benefited benefited. And so I'm actually gonna buy two because I'm here at the holiday house. And I'm like, I don't want to and I was like I can have one in my office or one of my house when I'm writing and then I plan to write the book as being the traveler that I am I plan to write the book in in some other places and you know, shift the energy sometimes, but it would be lovely to have that anchor and that talisman and that moves it that no matter where I am like the the vibration and the energy will be different in the place. But if I can have that thing to go, you know, I have played music tracks that are like it's writing time like I play the music and it's two beats in and I'm like it's focused on Yes.

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53: Well there you go. You just inspired me to to create a different collection, which is what we came up with Tara where it's about all the thing grounding, you know being reflective and flow so I need to create a collection called Fly.

Emma Lovell 54: 13

Emma Lovell 54: Well, you have a customer right here. We'll sell them maybe like at one point to a shop and the first thing I thought of putting in the shop was your candles so you have your own shop please tell us your website. Please tell us how we can connect with you beautiful Anna Yeah,

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54: so um, social media, it's moving school au website is moving school.au We're upgrading tweaking we've got new things coming out. I'm going to do a few limited edition pieces with some bigger crystal pieces for for those people who want something a bit of a lawyer in their place. You know, you can contact me through their communications etc. So yeah, there's a nice and easy.

Emma Lovell 54: 57

Emma Lovell 54: Love it. Thank you. So much for today. I'm so excited to buy my candle. I'm so excited to see you soon and have a have a session where, you know, in your space. I love what you do Anna. And as I said, it's been a privilege to watch you grow, and you were my accountability, buddy. And you remain that. For me. I'm so grateful. Crazy

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55: how many years it's been and I never thought of it when we first met. And it was by accident that we will buddied up together because someone didn't show up. Yep.

Emma Lovell 55: 32

Emma Lovell 55: Through that has just been every time that we've been connected, it's been the right thing. And yeah, I really am so grateful for your presence in my world.

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55: And thank you for today. I really enjoyed it.

Emma Lovell 55: 47

Emma Lovell 55: You did it. Thank you. Thank you for listening. Lovely one. I hope this has inspired you to dream big and start creating a life you love today. If you love what you're hearing, don't forget to follow and rate on Spotify and rate review and subscribe on iTunes. It helps other awesome people to find this podcast and get motivated and inspired as well. Want to stay connected comm and join the live a life you love group on Facebook, or connect with me on Instagram. Emma lovell.au, the same as my website. But all the details are in the show notes lovely. I'll see you next episode for more inspiration, motivation and freedom seeking. Go out there and live a life you love